The New Forum Software!

[PrinzMegaherz]

So, what options do I have to take if I want to use the old style forum (or at least the newest - oldest order)

[Fyron]

So, what options do I have to take if I want to use the old style forum (or at least the newest - oldest order)

There is nothing you can do. Richard has mentioned that he might modify the forums to allow us to choose the newest to oldest post order. The list of topics can be displayed in any order, but the topics themselves are always displayed oldest post to newest post.

[Fyron]

There are quirks with any new software that have to be worked out, but whining about it doesn't solve the problem, yeah?

Who is whining? I have simply repeated what I have said from day one of that polls existence. There is a huge difference between discussing the validity of a sample of data and whining about a forum upgrade. I was doing the former.

If that's the case and what you've been doing since day one, I'm sure you could have posted a link to the poll or made a new one if you felt it was biased or innaccurate. I liked the former style as well and this forum upgrade has caused it's share of headaches for me, but I doubt discussing (instead of arguing) the validity of the reasoning *why* the forum change happened is going to do much of anything. I don't think Shrapnel made it's decision based on any one aspect, considering their official stance has been "Sorry if you don't like it, we'd love your business but if you can't handle it, then you don't have to." roughly summed up.

[Richard]

If that's the case and what you've been doing since day one, I'm sure you could have posted a link to the poll or made a new one if you felt it was biased or innaccurate. I liked the former style as well and this forum upgrade has caused it's share of headaches for me, but I doubt discussing (instead of arguing) the validity of the reasoning *why* the forum change happened is going to do much of anything. I don't think Shrapnel made it's decision based on any one aspect, considering their official stance has been "Sorry if you don't like it, we'd love your business but if you can't handle it, then you don't have to." roughly summed up.

Well I wouldn't go that far. I think we have been more than helpful in working through issues that have been brought up. No matter what forum software we chose, a move from a non database (ie, flat file) forum that is ancient to a modern database based one is going to be painful. I am actually quite please at how most of it went off without a hitch. As we run into issues we will make decisions as to how to balance out everyone's desires. Remember what one person hates on a board, another person loves.

This wasn't aimed at you Zen, but I wanted to clarify things a bit. Thanks for your help so far, and suggestions.

[Gandalf Parker]

It matters in that it can not validly be used as a representation of what the majority of the forumers want.

Hmmm Im not sure it was meant to be a poll of what the forumers want. The forumers automatically represent the Users to whom the format wasnt a problem. Being in the "ask Shrapnel questions" forum meant it was placed well to catch people who were first timers, and often Last timers.

We do NOT have the option to display Posts how we would like it. They are forced in the oldest to newest order.

I admit that when I looked at the software we were getting it did seem that the order would be user choice. The community-chat sequence that many newer web Users preferred, or the customer-support sequence that I preferred. We will see if it can be achieved. If not then I guess Im out of luck.

Maybe I should have more accurately said "When the issue of the forum sorting method, reasons for and reasons why it is not (your) prefered way" is brought up, the general response is:"

I never ment to say that Shrapnel didn't do it's best to be helpful and accomidating. With the amount of instant changes that have already happened, it should be obvious that you are more than willing to be both

[Annette]

The new forums will take some getting used to for us all. Personally, I preferred the old style. That may be because it's what I'm used to and it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks...

I'd like to stress, though, that the main problem we had with the old software was the inability to offer you all uploading and downloading files. We saw that as a very real problem, and this is our solution. It's been a long time coming, and we apologize for the delay. We were concerned we would lose the wealth of information you all have shared here and that there would be a great deal of downtime in the conVersion. Hats off to Mindi and Richard for not allowing those things to happen!

We've taken a great deal of criticism over the years for the sorting order of the old style. I know you all have seen the debates. If it were a matter of sorting only, we probably would have left things alone. We preferred to read the new Posts first. We're aware that the only way we may please everyone is to be able to offer the option to sort whichever way the individual reader prefers, and we're working to be able to bring that to you.

Meanwhile, we truly appreciate your patience and your willingness to hang in there with us while we finish up the project. Be sure to go into your user preferences - you'll find many more options than were there previously. I found that my ability to recieve email notifications for private Messages had been turned off. Others may want to check that in their preferences.

Soon we hope you will all find the benefits of the new options a big improvement overall.

[Fyron]

Hmmm Im not sure it was meant to be a poll of what the forumers want.

If that's the case and what you've been doing since day one, I'm sure you could have posted a link to the poll or made a new one if you felt it was biased or innaccurate.

It wasn't really relevant, just a place for a few people to ***** before leaving the forums. Not something I would want to support.

[Boron]

how can i increase the letter size ?