Stacking identical artifacts?

[Boron]

No, identical artifacts wont stack, but 2 seperate items that provide the same bonus do. If you had a ring of wizardry and a ring of sorcery on one commander it would give +1 to all elemental paths and +2 to all sorcery paths for example.

Last I knew, there was a bug about the stacking items. If the two items arn't in adjacent inventory slots (like a hag with 4 misc. slots) they do stack. So you could equip ROS, ROW, ROS, ROW for +2 elemental / +4 sorcery.

oh can you stack 2 dwarfen hammers + the hammer of the forge lord then on a nataraja with 4 arm slots too and get 2x +25% and 1x +50% forge bonus when you use them your suggested way : dwarfen hammer , hammer of the forge lord , dwarfen hammer ?

[Pickles]

Or stack the hammer of the dwarf lords with the cyclops hammer for 100% (on a natarajah of course???)

Probably would have poor paths but free forging = funny

Pickles

[johan osterman]

It is not 100 -50 -50 but 100*0.5*05. And it never ever drops below 1 gem in all paths involved.

[Boron]

It is not 100 -50 -50 but 100*0.5*05. And it never ever drops below 1 gem in all paths involved.

Yeah . but when an item costs 80 gems and the costs drop to 5 gems or so this is nice

would 2 dwarfen hammers + the hammer of the forge lord arranged in my above suggested order give 2 times 25% forge bonus for the 2 dwarfen hammers or only once ?

is the cyclops hammer 1 or 2 handed ?

[Pickles]

It is not 100 -50 -50 but 100*0.5*05. And it never ever drops below 1 gem in all paths involved.

Well the forge of the ancients is certanly a seperate halving before the others but a master smith ADDS his bonus to that of the item he is using - 75 % with the hammer of the dwarfen lords for example so this is certainly worth speculating about!

Pickles

(Hmm if only I could get a Cyclops hammer to go with my smiths & hammers & forge)

[Boron]

Well the forge of the ancients is certanly a seperate halving before the others but a master smith ADDS his bonus to that of the item he is using - 75 % with the hammer of the dwarfen lords for example so this is certainly worth speculating about!

Pickles

(Boron -just wish a Cyclops Hammer in Blahblahblah & lend it to me...)

would that mean that a nataraja with the cyclops hammer and the hammer of the forge lord ( both 50% ) then gets everything for 1 gem , even soul contracts / robes of invulnerability ?

because from pickles statement it seems to me that forgebonuses are added and then multiplied and only the forge of ancients / site boni for forging are separated .

it would declare perfectly why pickles gets the robes for 10 gems .

if it would be all multiplied it would be 15 , not 10 gems .

sure normally this is not relevant BUT when playing on a faerun game where you can wish excessevely in lategame forging robes of invulnerability for 1 earth gem / turn should matter .

[Inigo Montoya]

You can't have both the Hammer of the Forge Lord and the Hammer of the Cyclops. Try it sometime -- if you wish for one, the other one goes "poof" and disappears.

Two Dwarven Hammers do NOT stack.

Best you can do is Nataraja with Hammer of the Forge Lord/Cyclops Hammer plus a Dwarven Hammer OR Dwarven Smith plus Hammer of the Forge Lord/Cyclops Hammer

[Inigo Montoya]

...and, of course, Forge of the Ancients as a global enchantment to cut your forging costs even further.

[johan osterman]

Im pretty certain it is a multiple of .75 in the cases of smiths as well, applied in the same manner as multiples caused by items or sites.

[Merry Jolkar]

I'm confused here: I have a Hammer of the Cyclops, but regardless of whom I give it to, it does not alter the stated gem cost for a given item.

Also, does forge of the ancients give you the power to make things at a higher level of construction that you have researched?

Thanks,
Merry