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Old August 28th, 2004, 11:06 AM

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Default Re: lategame balance . are my concerns true ?

A couple of points...

The immortality aspect of your vamps has one downside - lose your capital and then you're left with only sub-par troops (as vampires without their immortality are hardly anything to write home about in late stages of the game).

The assumption of game being turn 100. How big a map you're thinking of? I'd think most games would be by far been resolved by that time. Also, you shouldn't dismiss Undead Mastery as a too lategame spell, currently I'm in a MP where turns are in the 50s and my research is around levels 8-9 in all circles bar blood. Granted, I do value research much... and also, by that time players have had a good time to forge crystal and slave matrixes so with communion you can get a lot of Undead Mastery squads even if you aren't Pythium.

If you push the dominion with lots of priests blood sacrificing, they can be dealt with all those nice far-slaying spells.

And remember, when you invest into blood, other players may do the same or work their way into other schools. For example, the nation to get the Chalice has an option to Tartarian Factory, producing easily 50 SCs by the turn 100 you specified. And unlike vamps, they aren't limited by dominion. And of course, elemental royalty is usually the first to be reserved.

Anyway, I'd be a bit sceptic about that turn 100, but of course it depends on your map and people you play against.

There's probably a lot more to be considered, but that's what I came up with...
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Old August 28th, 2004, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: lategame balance . are my concerns true ?

yeah atul those tartarians are my other thing i think which is tooooo cheap .
10 deathgems for an at least top 5 sc .
when you consider their price they are probably resourcewise the best sc .


my concerns are only true for maps with at least 200 provinces .
but on karan and orania which are very liked mp maps the game normally goes until turn 100-150 .


a vampirelord is just a toooooooooooooo good investion .
55 blood slaves for a quite good leader who gives your 1 vampire / turn for FREE .


as it is i think these are the only 2 units left which are striking underprized .
1st your mentioned tartarians
2nd my mentioned vampire lords
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Old August 28th, 2004, 11:24 AM
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well once boron starts kicking everyone's asses 3 months from now maybe you'll listen
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