Caelum pretender design

[Boron]

Arryn said:
I'm curious as to what sort of pretender design -- excluding the Vampire Queen -- the experienced players of (base) Caelum out there are using. Do you go for an SC chassis, or a research chassis? Do you give the pretender the same magic paths as the national mages, or something completely different?

i am not experienced but i saw in a brief overlook not mentioned one pretender :

the nataraja .

since caelum has quite a few points from cold 3 you can make a really cool nataraja .

if she gets wounded she is a bit screwed but lategame you can get fairy queens to heal her .

[archaeolept]

1. natarajas are male.
2. they suffer cold fatigue from caelum's dominion
3. due to their usual function as brawlers w/out massive paths, they tend to accumulate afflictions - hence their popularity w/ Arcos.

[Boron]

archaeolept said:
1. natarajas are male.
2. they suffer cold fatigue from caelum's dominion
3. due to their usual function as brawlers w/out massive paths, they tend to accumulate afflictions - hence their popularity w/ Arcos.

1. correct . the name sounds feminine though
so i continue saying her
2. sure . i never said though that i use her as an earlygame sc
nataraja is 0 points +3 dominion so giving her a bit fire + air magic ( for travel ) and a bit earth for forging + invulnerability since caelum lacks earth is not too expensive .
2 death is an almost must to summon spectres finally .

but thats all in all not so expensive so i can go quite good scales

when i use her lategame i fight often outside my own dominin anyways so until i have an undead pretender i will always suffer some fatigue against either heat or cold opponents anyway .

3. i use her only fully equipped as mid-lategame sc .
if i get afflictions then it should be not too difficult with my astral income which is quite nice as caelum if needed to summon first a coatl and then a fairy queen with coatl + treelords staff .
cause 1 of my spectres should be able to summon a coatl sooner or later


so nataraja is relative useless earlygame ( but a good sitesearcher ) but mid-lategame she is better than a ghostking or a vq as sc and she is cheaper than a vq and about as expensive as a ghostking .

[Karacan]

Boron said:
correct . the name sounds feminine though
so i continue saying her

"We thank you for not offending ancient religions."
"But why? I haven't stopped doing so yet."

[archaeolept]

as "raja" means "king", I admit that i'm perplexed by the supposed femininity of it.

[Boron]

archaeolept said:
as "raja" means "king", I admit that i'm perplexed by the supposed femininity of it.

it is a language thing .

but in german you have not only the but 3 different words :
der ( normally for male )
die ( normally for female )
das ( normally for things )

but you say e.g. :
der mensch = the human
a human can be male and female . but here you chose the male variant der .
die see = the lake
you chose the femine variant die though a lake is of no gender .


in german das nataraja sounds stupid .
der nataraja and die nataraja sound both stupid too but die nataraja is probably the best chose for the 3 lol

[Pickles]

I think "rani" is the feminine of "raja" (based on "Flashman & the Great Game"). It is an Indian word but I do not know what language.


Pickles

[Karacan]

Boron said:
it is a language thing .

Sorry, it's not. It's a thing of education.

die see = the lake
you chose the femine variant die though a lake is of no gender .

So you're one of the reasons of the Pisa-results. "Die See" = the sea. The lake = "der See". There's a difference in there, and the right pronoun is rather important.

in german das nataraja sounds stupid .
der nataraja and die nataraja sound both stupid too but die nataraja is probably the best chose for the 3 lol

Please consider yourself a Christian for a moment. Now imagine some noob in some forum goes calling Jesus Christ "daughter of god", because her name sounds stupid for a male in his native language.



I'm german, and the arrogance and lack of respect for other cultures and Languages shown by some germans (among others) always tics me off.

Add edit:_ /rant off. Back to topic.

[The_Tauren13]

Boron said:
1. correct . the name sounds feminine though
so i continue saying her

heh.. made me laugh anyway



the way i see it, the point of language is to communicate. most people dont have any problem with reading lower case. if not capitalizing letters makes it really hard for you to read, maybe you need new glasses...
i guess it comes from playing so much CS and other real time games where if you take the time to spell things out perfectly and capitalize everything, you die.
and who cares if someone thinks youre uncivilized and uneducated when you already know they hate you.

[Graeme Dice]

The_Tauren13 said:
the way i see it, the point of language is to communicate. most people dont have any problem with reading lower case.

Most people do actually. That's why capitalization was invented in the first place back in the 900's.

if not capitalizing letters makes it really hard for you to read, maybe you need new glasses...

Capitalization tells people where new sentences begin.