Some ideas: raiding, seiging, spell AI and more..

[Boron]

Graeme Dice said:

Looks like you got unlucky then, and attack rearmost worked. Most of the time it won't if you have any other troops on the battlefield.

[qutoe]Did I mention drain life didnt work on the doom horrors?

Yes, you did. I didn't give it much weight, since my own tests show that it works very nicely. Take 8 D4 sauromancers, or 8 demiliches. Have them cast raise skeletons on the first turn. Have them cast drain life on all other turns. For me it works with about 4 dead mages in about three combat rounds.

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8 demiliches cost 200 deathgems so unless you fight in your own dominion this is costy then . But you are right demiliches are very good and they have 18 MR so the blood vengeance is not so horrible . And most important they are extremely useful for defense anyway since their function as drainlife/undeadspam brigade works quite well against almost everything .

In some ways i think the king of the world horror is better because he has 2x lifedrain and 2x astral claw as attack while the doom horror has it only once each and 2 mr - negate attacks .

Graeme what do you think is a better wish then ?
The doom horrors because they are rather cheap ( little equipment ) but still quite impressive ?
Air queens ?
Natarajas ?

[Graeme Dice]

Boron said:
8 demiliches cost 200 deathgems so unless you fight in your own dominion this is costy then.

I picked demiliches because it was easier to run the test with them than with sauromancers, since I didn't have to bother making skull staves.

But you are right demiliches are very good and they have 18 MR so the blood vengeance is not so horrible .

Blood vengeance is not horrible on most mages, since even sauromancers, for example, have a MR of 17. Most mages sit around MR 15.

Graeme what do you think is a better wish then ?
The doom horrors because they are rather cheap ( little equipment ) but still quite impressive ?

The most useful wishes are for power and magic power on your pretender. After that, I'd wish for artifacts that someone else has and you want. At that point, I'd start using my astrals for something else probably.

[Boron]

Graeme Dice said:
The most useful wishes are for power and magic power on your pretender. After that, I'd wish for artifacts that someone else has and you want. At that point, I'd start using my astrals for something else probably.

What's the something else ? SC-wise i still think wishing for SCs is quite good .
100 astral pearls are "only" 50 converted gems so i think wishing is not that bad . I personally like wishing for blood too since you get such a nice output .
I still haven't really figured out in which lategame things i should put in most of my resources to get the best overall return

[Soapyfrog]

Ah well, if drain life works then my bad... just that when *I* tried drain life, my sauromancers insisted on casting it on everything BUT the Doom Horror!!