MOO2 vs SEIV

[Suicide Junkie]

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The demo has it's limits, in the full Version I hope you can demolish/sell of facilities so that you can build new and better ones. Also that you can terraform your planets.

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You can do that stuff in the Demo, but you've gotta be really quick on the research front in order to do it before the time limit hits .

Edit: Unless the tech dosen't go that high... I don't remember what the limit is.

With a planet selected, there's a white tower with a small recycle icon in the corner of the button. Click that to scrap facilities.

Start on a high-tech game, and build an atmosphere converter, conditions improvement plant, and value improvement plant. You should see the terraforming finish before your game ends.

[This message has been edited by suicide_junkie (edited 20 June 2001).]

[Noble713]

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Game graphics: MOO 3, SE IV 5 -- you can't get any better than 24 bit!

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*cough* 3d Acceleration *cough*

Granted, 3d games require more impressive software to make MODs for, but after playing games like Far Gate, Homeworld, SFC, and SFC2, I'm thoroughly convinced that 3d is the way to go. Well, for the tactical engine at least, you don't really need to spice up the main game screen.

[Lucanos]

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Originally posted by Noble713:
*cough* 3d Acceleration *cough*

Granted, 3d games require more impressive software (snip)
...SFC (snip)
...and SFC2, I'm thoroughly convinced that 3d is the way to go.

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*cough* 3D? *cough* SFC? *cough*

*cough*

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[CaptSpoogy]

I bought M002 Last year from the discount bin and played it quite often - for awhile. I ended up getting bored at the lack of customibility - which is why I feel SE IV is a better game - and plus you can draw your own ships!

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[Baron Munchausen]

I'm afraid I do not agree that 3D 'acceleration' is a step above 3D pre-rendered graphics. It's just a way to sell more hardware, I think. Rarely has any game done anything creative with real-time rendered graphics. If they would just render the <bleep>ing pictures and put them on the CD you could play these games on much less expensive computers. So, 24-bit graphics is the best things will get. The human eye cannot detect all of the colors possible with 24-bits, let alone those in higher modes. We just need programs and graphical artists to produce high-quality images and SE can be as amazing as any 'real time' rendered game. The current default images are decent -- for 16 bit color! -- but not really close to the possibilities of 24-bit color.

[Lucanos]

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
It's just a way to sell more hardware, I think. Rarely has any game done anything creative with real-time rendered graphics.

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You said it.

Most of the 3D games out there are just crap - like the new X-COM game for instance.

I mean - SEIV in 3D would be pretty cool - as long as it wouldn't f**k up the game (*=my respect for all you friggin moralists out there ).

[Magnum357]

Ok, here is my vote.

MOO2 SEIV
Graphics 3 5
Tactical AI 3 4
Strategic AI 5 3
Customization 1 5
Tac Battles 2 5
Epicness 3 5
Races 4 5
Diplomacy 4 5
TOTAL AVG 3.125 vs. 4.625

I would have given a better Rating for MOOII for Customization if I hadn't discovered SE3 about 3 years later. Right now, I would say SE4 is probably the most customable game in existance, at least to my knowlege. I was never impressed about MOOII's Tac AI. Heck, what did it matter, their wasn't all that many options to begin with for different stategies anyway. Strategic was different. The AI in MOOII was pretty sharp an sort of knew you weak spots to hit it if wanted to. I don't think SE4 has that. Customization, heck! SE4 hands down, the winner! Epicness... eh... I suppose SE4 would win that since it is sooooo Multiplayer friendly. As long as you have an imaginative group of friends to play with SE4 with, the roleplaying part of SE4 is almost endless. Races, Both games had some interesting and unique races to its games. Diplomacy, I would have to say SE4 wins desisivly only if played in Multiplayer. Like I said before, you are only limited with this option by the limitation of your friends playing against you.

Overall, SE4 wins in my vote, but MOOII as an average game is not all that bad compared to some games I have seen out their.