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Old October 2nd, 2004, 08:05 AM
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It's obvious that in however little time you actually played Vicky you succeeded in learning very little about what the game's about, and what goes on "behind the scenes". Your summation of Vicky is tantamount to someone saying that Dom 2 just has magic item making, combat, and spellcasting. As we all know, Dom 2 is much deeper than that. So is Vicky, whether you appreciate it or not. I'm not going to waste my time (nor that of this forum's members) trying to educate you on just why Vicky is more complex than you realize. This isn't the proper forum for that. Paradox has excellent forums where I'm sure many many players would froth at the chance to set you straight were you to post there what you just posted here.
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Old October 2nd, 2004, 10:12 AM
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Arryn please try briefly .
I played Victoria excessevly about 1 month this maybe a bit too short but not much .

Really seriously : In Victoria you first try to setup your economy by building railroads , factories and upgrading pops .
I fail to see though how this requires a lot of skill ?
It is a lot of micro if you have a big country but after playing a bit each player knows which Factories are important and/or profitable .

Warfare is ultrasimple because this is not the focus of victoria . Though there are now about 30 different land units/brigade attachments you normally chose only 2-3 types so it is almost like in classical EU2 .

Then there is only left Diplomacy .


In Dominions instead you have really almost endless possibilities because there are so many viable strategies .
I think you can say Dominions is much deeper than Victoria though these games shouldn't really be compared .
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Boron,

It's obvious that in however little time you actually played Vicky you succeeded in learning very little about what the game's about, and what goes on "behind the scenes". Your summation of Vicky is tantamount to someone saying that Dom 2 just has magic item making, combat, and spellcasting. As we all know, Dom 2 is much deeper than that. So is Vicky, whether you appreciate it or not. I'm not going to waste my time (nor that of this forum's members) trying to educate you on just why Vicky is more complex than you realize. This isn't the proper forum for that. Paradox has excellent forums where I'm sure many many players would froth at the chance to set you straight were you to post there what you just posted here.
I ask once again could you please briefly say a few "behind the scenes" victoria things to back up your claim ? This takes you not more than 5 minutes and normally you like to prove me wrong anyways .
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I ask once again could you please briefly say a few "behind the scenes" victoria things to back up your claim ? This takes you not more than 5 minutes and normally you like to prove me wrong anyways .
1. Actually, it would take me more than 5 minutes.

2. I told you this isn't the proper place.

3. I have no desire to waste more of my time trying to educate you on this (or any other matter). I mentioned that in another thread a while back.

4. Trying to goad me into it won't work (for you, or anyone else). In spite of any mistaken belief to the contrary (based upon my past behavior) that you, Zen, or Archaeolept may have.
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me? what did I do? :O


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I mean, i didn't much care for battlecruiser 3000 i guess...

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me? what did I do? :O
Just checking to see if you're awake. In answer to your semi-rhetorical question: Nothing *this* time. Call it an application of the Bush Doctrine (a preemptive strike). I'm trying to put to rest the notion that I'm easy (with respect to getting a rise out of me).

Tag, you're it ...
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I ask once again could you please briefly say a few "behind the scenes" victoria things to back up your claim ? This takes you not more than 5 minutes and normally you like to prove me wrong anyways .
1. Actually, it would take me more than 5 minutes.

2. I told you this isn't the proper place.

3. I have no desire to waste more of my time trying to educate you on this (or any other matter). I mentioned that in another thread a while back.

4. Trying to goad me into it won't work (for you, or anyone else). In spite of any mistaken belief to the contrary (based upon my past behavior) that you, Zen, or Archaeolept may have.
Sigh .
I would have liked to discuss a bit about the complexity of Victoria compared to Domininions though .

So 1 Last try . You just write all the excuses because you know yourself that Victoria is by no means as complex as Dominions but don't want to admit that i am right once with this claim after the motto "every dog has its day" .
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3. I have no desire to waste more of my time trying to educate you on this (or any other matter). I mentioned that in another thread a while back.
Maybe you'd waste less time if you stopped repeating yourself.
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Maybe you'd waste less time if you stopped repeating yourself.
Perhaps. I'd waste even less time if I ignored you. Consider yourself welcome to go back into the woodwork you crawled out of. Bye.
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Perhaps. I'd waste even less time if I ignored you. Consider yourself welcome to go back into the woodwork you crawled out of. Bye.
What the hell is your problem this time Arryn?
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