OT: Superman and Stemcells

[Arryn]

Zen said:
Nothing like dropping a cigarette on your lap to make you "Be Prepared".

Further proof of just how stupid smoking is.

Zen said:
the issue is babykill'n for their precious, juicy stemcells

Wrong. It isn't a baby until after it's born. And until it has measurable brainwaves it's just a parasitic organism. (If a human is dead when its brain stops working, then a fetus isn't a live human until its brain starts working.) A bLastocyst has no more rights than the bacteria living in a person's gut, or a flatworm, or a tumor. Unless the lunatics at PETA have their way.

[Zen]

Your Anti-Tumor and Anti-Flatworm too?!

How do you live with yourself?

[Arryn]

Zen said:
Your Anti-Tumor and Anti-Flatworm too?!

How do you live with yourself?

Happily. By avoiding carcinogens and impure water, of course. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon24.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Peace.gif[/img]

[Huzurdaddi]

bacteria living in a person's gut, or a flatworm, or a tumor

Why do you have such hatred in your heart for flatworms? Open your heart to the love.

[Arryn]

Huzurdaddi said:
Why do you have such hatred in your heart for flatworms? Open your heart to the love.

Open yours. Be my guest. As for me, I'll pass on being (soft in the head) conservatively compassionate with regards to life-sucking parasites, be they worms or wormlike elected (or nonelected) officials. The former must all die, and the latter must all be kicked out of office for the good of the nation and the world.

[Huzurdaddi]

The former must all die, and the latter must all be kicked out of office for the good of the nation and the world.

Sadly the latter will probably not be kicked out of office due to the segment of the population that passionately requires that the former must live. Actually passionately is far too weak of a word. Fervently is a far better word.

While the side who wants to kick out the current officials think that they are passionate about the subject they simply do not understand what "passion" is ... it's ... uhm ... different. If you want what you want due to logical reasons then you simply do not have anywhere near the same level of pasion.

Not like I really understand it, I happen to like logic thank you very much. However I have observed this way of "thinking" and it is very powerful to those that practice it.

OTOH I have to believe ( eek ) that the number of people who Subscribe to logic outnumber that people that don't. And perhaps they will show up at the polls this time around. But if history is any guide they will not.

[Arryn]

Sadly, "the number of people who Subscribe to logic" is a miniscule percentage of the population of any country, especially ours. As proof I present you with "reality TV", our national debt courtesy those whom the populace in their boundless logic continue to reelect, and that same populace's belief in myth & superstition, drug use (including tobacco), drunk driving, and child/spousal abuse. (BTW, by myth and superstition I'm not referring to voodoo, astrology, numerology, John Edwards, et cetera, though they certainly are obvious examples of bunk. I'm referring to most religions such as Judeo-Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, etc.)

[Evil Dave]

Arryn said:

(If a human is dead when its brain stops working, then a fetus isn't a live human until its brain starts working.)

Glad to see somebody agrees with me. ISTR it's about the forth or fifth month of gestation when the fetus shows brain activity that can't be distinguished from folks what has been born.

[Zen]

Glad to see somebody agrees with me. ISTR it's about the forth or fifth month of gestation when the fetus shows brain activity that can't be distinguished from folks what has been born.

There are people who live 20-30 years that can probably say the same?

[Cainehill]

Zen said:

There are people who live 20-30 years that can probably say the same?

But we currently have proof that you don't need living brain cells or brain activity to become the president of the USA, if your family is rich and connected enough.