PBW "newbie game"

[BeeDee10]

I'm willing to keep on playing, I guess there's always the chance of something unexpected happening. But at this point it all seems to be a matter of mopping up; I don't think I'll be able to build up enough equipment to do anything significant in a year's time, and there's only a handful of AI systems remaining to be pacified. Phoenix has devastated himself quite thoroughly too, and though the Tzeech may have good tech they don't have the resource base to do anything spectacularly disruptive (unless you're hiding a couple of sunbusters in there or something

[Dragonlord]

Beedee, I'm sorry, I guess 'm just more of an agressive schemer than you are :-)
No hard feelings? I sure don't want to get a reputation of a backstabbing schemer, I'm in another PBW game with 10 humans (now 5 left) and you can check there that I always stick with my allies. Although in that game I am now on the receiving end of allied betrayal... Hmm I did scheme there against my neighbor though, with two other humans against him. But he was just being too naive to trust me too far.. One thing I learned from that other PBW game is the concept of "checkerboard alliances" meaning that in such a crowded galaxy, your neighbors are your natural enemies, while the next neighbor over is your natural ally, and you always try to scheme with the next guy (so position 1 and 3 in a 1-2-3 line-up, cosmo-graphically) against number 2.

Oh, two more small things came to mind about Newbie II: BD, you complained about the destruction of a Xiati homeworld. But I just checked, for instance in Lundra there are two gas giants with 4000+ population, presumably ex-Eee homeworlds, under your control. If I click on them, I can't see of which race the population is made up...
So in the case of the homeworld in Tyrik, for all I know it contained Irra-nur settlers (which were an acceptable target within our role-playing constraints).

You also mentioned earlier you did not buy my excuse for the war declaration, the "military coup" that went on within the Dragon regime. I was trying to set up the roleplaying for that earlier, hoping I had given you enough hints. Remember the Messages about a faction in my government being pissed off at you for "policing the galaxy" ? And that I was barely able to keep them in line? That was a prelude to the military coup :-)

Oh and if score wasn't important to you, weren't you playing to win? What was your ultimate goal (outside of roleplaying) for this game?

I must say, you roleplayed well, consistently, and it was a great deal of fun. I have never spent so much time sending lengthy Messages to other players. I hope you enjoyed that as well, and once again, I hope there are no hard feelings. (No sore losers :-) We can start a new game where you can hand me my head on a platter

[BeeDee10]

Oh, no hard feelings. I guess it's imposible not to feel a _little_ miffed when after 20 days or so of work one's empire gets trashed so quickly and completely, but in the final analysis it's just a game. Well played.

The Xiati world was large with an oxygen atmosphere. If it was inhabited by Irha-Nrr, it would have been a domed colony and could only have held a population of 960M. But there were about 4000M present, so they couldn't have been Irha-Nrr. I guess it's an understandable oversight, but it happened to be an Irha-Nrr emotional hot button. When those people were wiped out was when I rolled over and gifted you everything; the Irha-Nrr would do anything to protect those lives, including surrender.

Probably why the Tzeech figured that planet was of such strategic importance to me.

The thing I "didn't buy" about the coup was that the general who took charge afterward was the one who was wholly responsible for the attack on my territory; it was clear you'd massed those fleets on the borders for a while previously (including in Vintidrin right after we'd agreed to make it a demilitarized buffer ). I'm assuming of course that you were laying the blame for it on him; if not, then the misunderstanding was mine.

As for my goal, it was only what the Irha-Nrr had been spouting off about to everyone the entire time; I just wanted everyone to live in peace with each other and not commit genocides and stuff.

Now that the surprise of my stunning defeat has worn off, I think things wound up ending quite well all things considered. I've developed the "character" of the Irha-Nrr quite a bit more in this game than I did in all my previous single-player ones, and I think that in my next revision of them I'm going to record the events of this game in their general history.

It would probably have wound up a bit of an anticlimactic ending if we'd just mopped up the AIs and then run out the clock, after all. I'm just sorry I wasn't prepared enough to provide more fireworks in the finale.

[Dragonlord]

Guys, I am confused now.
Are we continuing the Newbie II game or not?
Cause it will be a boring drag to micromanage the 25 or so planets I just got from BD, every single one of them scrapped till nothing was left standing on it

Phoenix, I assume you offered the Partnership treaty just so you can take a look at my empire?
Didn't you say you put the Certadsh and Irrh nur races on AI control?

Lost Dragon

[BeeDee10]

Heh heh heh. I wasn't about to have you _profit_ so easily from your attack on me.

I'm a little confused too, perhaps we should take the discussion to the game's forum over on PBW? The strategy discussion seems to be dying down now.

[CaptSpoogy]

Man, do you know what happened to Slargos in Newbie I? It's been more than 24hrs and I would like to get some turns in while I can...



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[Dragonlord]

Spoogy, I've been wondering about same in Newbie I...maybe he gave up?
Why didn't the turn get auto-processed when we went over the deadline?