OT - US Presidential Candiates Arrested!

[Renegade 13]

Starhawk said:
Okay Renegade I'm sorry here but that whole Canadian citizen deal is just BS as a justification for how "evil" we americans are I had a friend who was detained by the RCMP and kept for over four hours of questioning because of one oops in his passport so political mistakes happen on both sides of the border

Oh and Canada has a military so weak it can barely defend it's own country and relies on allies for everything (not an insult here I'm just saying) so they couldn't go about any serious wars if they wanted too.

You're friend who was detained...he was released wasn't he? Not deported to some foreign country against his will? All I'm trying to say is that, while both sides of the border make large mistakes, (no one can argue about that!) we don't deport people to foreign countries without due cause, and we don't have laws such as the patriot act. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying Canadians are the moral superiors of Americans, not at all. I'm merely pointing out fundamental differences in our ways of doing things.

As for the Canadian military, point well taken. The Canadian military IS pathetic. But, look at our population as compared to yours. You have about 300 million population, we have 30. You're military SHOULD be 10 times the size of ours. I know, I know, the difference is more than a factor of 10 difference, but that accounts for a lot of it. I for one believe we should have a strong enough military that we can defend our own shores and borders without foreign assistance. But I'm just one small voice. However, if Canada was ever invaded, you can bet our military would be defeated, but the occupying force had better watch out, because I've been shooting guns for as long as I can remember, and I'm a damn good shot You can bet many people wouldn't take it lying down, just as if America was invaded, your civilians would fight back But I am forced to agree with most of your arguements.

[Katchoo]

Renegade 13 said:
You're friend who was detained...he was released wasn't he? Not deported to some foreign country against his will? All I'm trying to say is that, while both sides of the border make large mistakes, (no one can argue about that!) we don't deport people to foreign countries without due cause, and we don't have laws such as the patriot act. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying Canadians are the moral superiors of Americans, not at all.

Well, if you won't say it, I will.

"Canadians are moraly superior to Americans". Our Government doesn't fund uprisings and supply weapons to Militias (re: Taliban) to overthrow Governemnts that we don't approve of. That's why Canada has never been hit with a Terrorist attack, and that's why we won't.

Terrorists don't "hate America's freedom", as the Bush Administration keeps preaching. Terrorists hate foreign Countires funding revolutions in their homeland. If the U.S. ever got a clue and realized that giving guns & money to rebel factions doesn't work long term, then there would be a hell of a lot less distate (and hate) towards the U.S. in the Middle East and elsewhere in the World.

[Starhawk]

Katchoo said:

Well, if you won't say it, I will.

"Canadians are moraly superior to Americans". Our Government doesn't fund uprisings and supply weapons to Militias (re: Taliban) to overthrow Governemnts that we don't approve of. That's why Canada has never been hit with a Terrorist attack, and that's why we won't.

Terrorists don't "hate America's freedom", as the Bush Administration keeps preaching. Terrorists hate foreign Countires funding revolutions in their homeland. If the U.S. ever got a clue and realized that giving guns & money to rebel factions doesn't work long term, then there would be a hell of a lot less distate (and hate) towards the U.S. in the Middle East and elsewhere in the World.

Oh dear sweet mother of all things holy I hope your joking because that is the biggest load of bull I've ever had anyone try to force feed down my throat other then the guy who tried to convince me he was having bigfoots baby.

A.) Canada is not worth being hit by a terrorist attack to a terrorist organization because as renegade pointed out so well THEY HAVE an ity bitty tiny population that is not as centralized as the average US big city nor are they as nationally diverse so blowing up a building in Canada would only kill Canadians and most likely far fewer dead (the terrorists were attempting to knock the towers over not make them collapse, estimated body count was nearly 100,000 dead had the towers fallen while rescue personnel were on scene and while the other buildings and streets below were crowded as their fall would have lead to a chain reaction for multiple blocks and killed so many people it's scary), in canada you just couldn't kill that many people that easily unless you dropped a nuke so less body count means less publicity which means not worth it.
And as for Canadians themselves being morally superior because they never fund rebel Groups or anything, uh THEY'RE TOOO POOR buddy! Hand a blue Canadian dollar to a middle easterner he'd use it for toilet paper and then laugh at you (heck he might give it back in the mail)so of course your not funding terrorist Groups.

Ahem TERRORISTS HATE EVERYONE OF A DIFFERENT RELGION look at their doctrines, they hated us for soo many reasons you can't DARE simplify it as a "oooh big bad americans made dumb mistakes during the cold war" crap and th soviet union funded rebels to are they going after Russia.........NO so that blows that theory right clean out of the water buddy.
Oh and no offense to any Canadians here, I hear it's a lovley country with polite people but lets face it in the grand world scheme of things most of the 3rd world nations probobly don't know what Canada is while 99.999% of the world knows of that huge ol' country the United States.

[AMF]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the rest of the world calls Americans arrogant.

Starhawk said:
Oh and no offense to any Canadians here, I hear it's a lovley country with polite people but lets face it in the grand world scheme of things most of the 3rd world nations probobly don't know what Canada is while 99.999% of the world knows of that huge ol' country the United States.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Next time you're in Canada, try looking up a show called 'Talking To Americans'. They talk to university and college students as well as political candidates including presidential candidates when they can. I'm not sure if they are still running it, but if you can catch a show called 'This hour has 22 minutes' they'll have re-runs. Then, you can talk about the differences between Canada and the US.

[Starhawk]

alarikf said:
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the rest of the world calls Americans arrogant.

Actually if you pay attention to the wording it is hardly arrogant, Americans have been everyhwere and usually it's in large numbers.
As others have pointed out so politely Canadians don't much go to other countries (em masse) so go ahead and ask an Afghani child if they know who Canada is I doubt theyd know.

How is that possibly arrogant or even insulting? It's just a matter of where your nation goes en masse vs where "private citizens" go and let's face it there are countries we here in the industrialized west don't know about (i'm talking on a citzen basis NOT government) and they probobly on average don't know much about north America so what are you claimimg i'm being arrogant by saying there are places in the world that your average joe on the street of a 3rd world country don't know about?

I mean damn man if you take everything an American says expecting it to sound arrogant and rude your going to find a way to twist it in your mind to sound arrogant and rude no?


Anyway Renegade as to what happened to my friend it was actually funny, he was stuck in Canada for two days before being "deported" (can't remember what they actually called it at the moment) to the US. basically they just sent him home because his passport was not entirely in order even after all the beurocratic stuff that took 2 days to find out what was wrong lol. but he hadn't done anything illegal so it was no big deal but it's not like the RCMP gave him a lawyer when they questioned him for the 4 hours.
Either way he thought it was funny because of the fact that his parents made a goof and he got to stay in Canada for two more days of vacation while the mess was sorted out. You know he never did tell me what was wrong with the passport heh.

[Gandalf Parker]

Starhawk said:
Oh and no offense to any Canadians here

Too much to respond to in all that.

This is embearrassing. Either you are an excellent troll or the best example of an american stereotype Ive met in a long time. Please... join something and visit the real world outside of the US.

[Renegade 13]

Starhawk said:

Actually if you pay attention to the wording it is hardly arrogant, Americans have been everyhwere and usually it's in large numbers.
As others have pointed out so politely Canadians don't much go to other countries (em masse) so go ahead and ask an Afghani child if they know who Canada is I doubt theyd know.

And Afghani would know, since Canadians are one of the largest (if not the largest) peace keeping forces in Afghanistan, since the US decided to pull out and concentrate on Iraq.

[Starhawk]

Actually we are still there it's just we have military presence as apposed to a "peacekeeper" contingent like Canada

Don't peacekeepers wear the UN symbols on their uniforms and not those of their homeland? hmmm I always forget that as I don't see many pictures of UN Peacekeeper contingents.

I meant huge as in the american government tends to but into alot more national affairs then canada (yes I said butt in in a bad way) that's all I meant by just about everyone knows who we are.


Anyway I'm out of this thread as I'm buisy working on my mod so have fun all

[Katchoo]

Starhawk said:A.) Canada is not worth being hit by a terrorist attack to a terrorist organization because as renegade pointed out so well THEY HAVE an ity bitty tiny population that is not as centralized as the average US big city nor are they as nationally diverse so blowing up a building in Canada would only kill Canadians and most likely far fewer dead (the terrorists were attempting to knock the towers over not make them collapse, estimated body count was nearly 100,000 dead had the towers fallen while rescue personnel were on scene and while the other buildings and streets below were crowded as their fall would have lead to a chain reaction for multiple blocks and killed so many people it's scary), in canada you just couldn't kill that many people that easily unless you dropped a nuke so less body count means less publicity which means not worth it.

"Tried to knock it down"??? If you want to tip over a building, you take out the supports. Ever watch a controlled building demolition? You don't see Engineers toppling a building blowing it from the top floors. Terrorists are a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. If they were stupid they would have been caught at the Airport.

This is the first time I've heard your explanation. Sounds like more "fear propoganda" to keep Bush's base controlled & paranoid.

And as for Canadians themselves being morally superior because they never fund rebel Groups or anything, uh THEY'RE TOOO POOR buddy! Hand a blue Canadian dollar to a middle easterner he'd use it for toilet paper and then laugh at you (heck he might give it back in the mail)so of course your not funding terrorist Groups.

So you're, what, saying that it's all right to fund terrorist Groups and start rebellions? I think it's time you put aside your copy of SE:IV and smelled the coffee.

As for knocking our currency, well, have at it all you want. Poke all the fun you want at our Military too. At the end of the day our Soldiers will still be alive (and mostly home) while your Men & Women are off getting ripped apart in Iraq. The joke's on you, and I wish it weren't.

Ahem TERRORISTS HATE EVERYONE OF A DIFFERENT RELGION look at their doctrines, they hated us for soo many reasons you can't DARE simplify it as a "oooh big bad americans made dumb mistakes during the cold war" crap and th soviet union funded rebels to are they going after Russia.........NO so that blows that theory right clean out of the water buddy.

Who's talking about the Cold War. I specifically mentioned the Taliban. Had the United States not supplied funding & weapons to Bin Laden during the 80's & 90's the 9/11 attack may not have happened.

Terrorists have no problems with other Religions, as long you don't try to impose another Religion on to them. Unfortunately the U.S. likes to go around shoving Christianity down foreign throats, and that, young man, doesn't help your Country.

Oh and no offense to any Canadians here, I hear it's a lovley country with polite people but lets face it in the grand world scheme of things most of the 3rd world nations probobly don't know what Canada is while 99.999% of the world knows of that huge ol' country the United States.

An ignorant comment from a waste of space.