Wish for gemgraph for next patch

[Yvelina]

I generally dislike graphs, but I would like to have at least the F4 information available at any time. Right now, if you turn off the graphs, you can't even see which nations are in play.

I would like to have just one graph, the 'Dominion' one.

[Ironhawk]

I love graphs and would be very hesistant to play in any game without them. IMO, they take away *so much* micromanagment and scutwork that they are a neccessity. If you didnt have the charts, you would have to manually handle a legion of scouts. And then on top of that you would have to do all these manual calculations based on the scouts data to guess what your enemies strength was. Who wants to do all that work?

But, while I disagree that the information is too specific, I do see peoples points. My suggestion would just be to build uncertainity into the graphs (like there is uncertainty in army numbers when a scout is in the province) somehow. And you could even make that option modifiable from game start.

[Cainehill]

Yvelina said:
I generally dislike graphs, but I would like to have at least the F4 information available at any time. Right now, if you turn off the graphs, you can't even see which nations are in play.

Amen! You can't see which nations are in play, and worse - you can't even see which nations / players have gone AI. Given that there's no notification when a player goes AI, it's possible that only one human player might be left in a game without knowing. Or even - all players gone AI.

I could see only showing nations after you've come into contact with them, if only for a turn - a number of strategy games have done that before, where at the beginning you wouldn't know what races were in the game. But to not have the computer keep track of it once you've seen them, and to not know who, if any, have gone AI?

[Cohen]

Well you can always see what nations are in, from the select nation screen, and from Pretenders click, where you see every player, and his stuatus (if defeated, or AI, or Human).

[Tuidjy]

Cohen said:
Well you can always see what nations are in, from the select nation screen,

Not available when you are getting your .trn file by e-mail.

and from Pretenders click, where you see every player, and his stuatus (if defeated, or AI, or Human).

Not available when graphs are turned off... which I believe was Yvelina's point.

[atul]

Cainehill said:
Given that there's no notification when a player goes AI, it's possible that only one human player might be left in a game without knowing.

The lone player won't be too keen on diplomacy then, as the ingame text Messages can't be sent to AIs (the option to send text Messages to a nation disappears when its player turns AI)... Okay, a poor workaround, but anyway, easy to check should you start to wonder sudden change of your neighbour's demeanor.