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Old October 28th, 2004, 07:31 AM

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Yeah deccan has a good point.

I am going to do some votes.

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Old October 28th, 2004, 07:35 AM

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Actually it won't be too bad if the victory condition is by % of provinces. I assume that if a nation manages to grab control of over 50% of total provinces it ought to be pretty obvious.

If victory is by number of VPs though, graphs off might be problematic.
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Old October 28th, 2004, 07:43 AM

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Currently looking at Victory by Provinces with some confusion about exactly what percentage to use.

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Old October 28th, 2004, 11:17 AM

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Graphs off for VP does not work as well, for it can be hard to determine exactly how many a side has. But for provinces, this is not an issue. Even if all your spies are caught, you will have a good idea of how large a territory each of the game leaders have. You will be trading inforation with your allies to get an even closer tally if needed. And when somebody is eliminated, pretty much everybody in the game will know who did it and adjust the province count appropriately.

In my only other game with graphs off, I remember sending spies to the edge of Abysian (Aku) territory to get an idea of where his border with Man and Pangaea was. I knew about his border with R'lyeh since I was allied with that watery race. So I made an informed estimate of how many provinces Aku had. We then exchanged province count with each other over MSN and he had something like 22, which fit my estimate of 20-25.

I remember watching a big battle (on the other side of the map from me) between Pasha Dawg and Boron, and they were both issuing false proclamations about it. So I took screen shots and posted it on the thread. Aku remarked that my Pythium spy was a long ways from home, which he was. I also recall keeping that spy alive for something like 40 turns. He eventually got caught, as they all do at some point.

Unlike army size, gems, income, dominion and, to a lesser extent VPs, province count is incredibly difficult to mask whether the graphs are on or off. In my opinion, being able to hide these other graphs is what makes it attractive to me. I will have my spies roaming to keep tabs on all my neighbors regardless of the score graph state.
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May i join too ?
I would like to try machaka .

Pasha will love this setting . Reversed roles .

That Pasha , Aku and Panther are in alone guarantees me that it will be a fun game .

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Old October 28th, 2004, 09:00 PM

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If it helps any...I am no longer going to be a land race since I switched to Ryleh to give our map a water race. So it would be the same amount of land nations if that helps the host's decision to allow another player in.

Oh and my Ryleh Pretender I just finished. Should we start uploading?
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I would like to try machaka .

Pasha will love this setting . Reversed roles .

I am awaiting the mighty Spider Lords revenge who shapeshifted now into a pangenean God
[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img] Something will be lurking in the woods, biding its time... waiting for the right time to strike the little fluffy machaka bunny-spider... [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img]
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I think there is room for you Boron, so welcome.

No one has uploaded yet so if you want you can still cast your votes, the two uncertain elements at this time are the Map (So far 2 votes for Cradle and None against but this is not yet a clear majority as there are about 6 or 7 members of the group who have been voting, so once we get about 4 votes for something I consider it the obvious choice.)

The next is Victory Conditions, we have clearly deceided in favor of a Province based victory condition but it is still unclear as to the exact percentage desired by the majority, we have 2 votes for 2/3 or 66%, 1 vote for 1/2 or 50%, and 1 vote for more than 50% but less than 66%.

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I remember watching a big battle (on the other side of the map from me) between Pasha Dawg and Boron, and they were both issuing false proclamations about it.

LIES!!! <froth> LIES!!! <froth> LIES!!! It shocks the conscience how PANTHER ignores the facts. BAH!! The GREAT SPIDER LORD won that MP easily, and all trembled before his secret doom weapon.
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