I vote for the cradle map too so we have the vote finished for it.
About victory conditions...games usually always tend to have a winner you can outright see. Comon if one empire has over half the map they probably cant be stopped unless the other half all unite to try to stop him. I say we just play it out and see what happens.
I am going to do a quick run in sp to test my ryleh pretender then upload it. So far only Jotumheim has uploaded so far.
We currently have 11 players for the map and I am not sure if the map we chose can handle more. It is Grim's decision though since he is in charge of this game.
Sorry Seater, I think we are all full up. The Cradle Map with 10 land and 1 water race is about as full as it can get, the designer of the Map lists it as for 8 to 10 players so we are already over the recommended limit as it is.