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November 6th, 2004, 09:11 AM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
Oh, I'll bet you meant that Breath of Winter does *damage* to non-cold-immune things, and Chill only increases fatigue of non-cold-immune things. Got it.
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November 6th, 2004, 12:57 PM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
BoW is, in fact, especially useful for the jots as their own regular troops are immune to it's effect.
the F9 blessing adds a bonus 8ap attack, no str added, to each of the sacred unit's attacks. it does not increase fatigue - i don't even think it has a seperate attack roll (ie one attack, two damage rolls).
as to taking down communions: area effect spells, flying units, flanking cavalry...
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November 6th, 2004, 03:29 PM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
Just clarifying the above post, were your blessed paladin to use a weapon in each hand, a flail or Sword of Swiftness, or otherwise have two or more primary attacks(Attacks which aren't #bonus, like horse hooves), he would get two or more 8 independent ap attacks.
By "independent", I mean that damage for these attacks is applied seperately, but methinks the jury is still out on whether or not they get their own attack rolls. Though obviously it'd make more sense for them not to have their own rolls.
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November 6th, 2004, 03:33 PM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
or, if you wished for a nataraja, gave him 4 swords of swiftness and boots of quickness and shroud of the battle saint, he would get an extra 16 8ap damage attacks... 
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November 6th, 2004, 05:55 PM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
If he had four weapons (4 attacks), and each of the five items doubled the number of attacks he got, wouldn't he have one-hundred-and-twenty-eight attacks? Plus 128 extra 8ap fire attacks?
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November 6th, 2004, 05:56 PM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
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How do you know this? I mean, how did you figure out that the fire-9 bless effect added a separate damage instance instead of increasing the damage of the normal attack?
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November 6th, 2004, 06:11 PM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
The Sword of Swiftness does not bestow Quickness on its wielder; it simply gives two attacks per turn. What would be even more fun would be this Natajara with Heroic Quickness, and a very high absurd value of 400% Quickness, or something along these lines.
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November 6th, 2004, 06:27 PM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
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How do you know this? I mean, how did you figure out that the fire-9 bless effect added a separate damage instance instead of increasing the damage of the normal attack?
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The devs told us a few months ago. I believe that the +8 AP attack only applies to attacks with the primary weapon however, so a unit with a flail will get 2 fire attacks, but a unit with two swords will only get one such attack.
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November 6th, 2004, 06:51 PM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
So there's a lot of information which is sort of "oral tradition" -- the devs talking about it on this forum. Illwinter and Shrapnel should keep in mind that that information is not part of the game as experienced by the "mass market" -- the majority of Dom 3 Users will probably never read this forum...
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November 6th, 2004, 06:53 PM
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Re: spell questions: Breath of Winter, Communion M
heh, yes, but for some this is part of the game's charm. even people who have been playing since Dom I are unsure about so many specifics...
heck, even the devs don't know a good proportion of the time 
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