2004 Presidential Election.

Azselendor · #1 November 18th, 2004, 03:32 AM

Well, you know it's a telling sign that it most likely doesn't hold water when thier first option is to amend the federal constitution. To me, this says that not only will it not hold up to judicial review, but they already know that attempting to restrict the word 'Marriage' to become the eclusive trademark of hetrosexual relationships, is a lost cause.

Take the states that amended thier state constitutions to ban gay marriage. Honestly, how long will those amendments Last? Under federal Constitutional Law, EVERY state must give full faith and credit to the legal documents of each other. Under the law, the Judge has to rule that the state constitution is in conflict with Federal Constitution and must have the amendment on the state level stricken.

There is practically no grounds by which an anti-marriage law for gays will hold any ground without amending the federal constitution.

And Atrocities, if people read the fine print about Bush's Social Security plan, they will see something sneaking in the door with it. It's a nasty three-letter word.

Atrocities · #2 November 18th, 2004, 04:40 PM

I have read that they also want to amend the constitution so that foriegners can run for the Office of the President. OH HELL NO.................. HELLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO.

Azselendor · #3 November 18th, 2004, 11:09 PM

I absolutely agree on that. No foreigners as president.

Well, I would make an exception for those admitted into the united states as citizens under the age of 10 and remained in the US for, say, 7/8th's or 11/12th's of the time since then.

tesco samoa · #4 November 19th, 2004, 01:53 PM

perhaps open to anyone with a us citizenship. That seems fair.

You already allow people with criminal records to run...

Azselendor · #5 November 20th, 2004, 02:22 PM

It is open to anyone with US citizenship - so long as you are born into that citizenship.

naturalized citizens cannot run, that's why I suggested that naturalized citizens under the age of ten and remained in the country for a significant majority of thier life should also have that right.

Atrocities · #6 November 21st, 2004, 07:48 PM

No, the constitutional law was establish to ensure that no foriegn power ever gained control of our nations higest office. I am not a bit sorry to say that Arnold can kiss my big bare butt if he things for a instant that the US population would ever change the constitution so that he or any other foriegn citizan of the US could become the President.

JMO

Colonel · #7 November 21st, 2004, 08:54 PM

Atrocites, the problem with that is there are people who would vote to change the constution to allow him to become President. Also the law wasnt established to protect us from a Foriegn power gaining control of the highest office, it was established because the Founders felt that a person who moved here could not understand the political and economic needs of the populus aswell the cultrue difference between the Forigner and the natural citizens.

Renegade 13 · #8 November 22nd, 2004, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Atrocities said:
I have read that they also want to amend the constitution so that foriegners can run for the Office of the President. OH HELL NO.................. HELLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO.

What, you don't think I could run your country well?

Nah, it'd be a piece of cake. I'd make a wonderful dictator!

(jk)

Atrocities · #9 November 22nd, 2004, 06:57 PM

Oh its not personal, it has to do with who is running you.

Thats the SOB I don't wanna trust.

Azselendor · #10 November 23rd, 2004, 12:11 AM

The foreign nations trying to take over is a mute point as the American Nazi Party back in the 30's showed that Americans are more than willing to subvert thier own political system.

Now, I would extend voting rights down to 16 and restrict military enlistment to 17 years, six months if not higher. I find it mildly ironic that viting age was lowered to 18 because so many GI's couldn't vote, but had to serve in war. Now the military seems to take them even younger...

Go figure.