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				November 22nd, 2004, 06:43 PM
			
			
			
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		| I think double-bless troops is a typical newbie strategy. 
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But I was really amazed when I tried to count how much a fire 9 astral 9 dragon costs. Urgh. 
I would never have guts to pay so much for the pretender.
 
Care to share your scales?    
Turms
 
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				November 22nd, 2004, 06:52 PM
			
			
			
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 yah, you need truly atrocious scales for something like that.  really, w/ zen's scale mod included such ultradragons will cease to be viable, i think.  but i'm a fan of pushing bless strats when the opportunity arises.  hell, when i encountered thufir's super cyclops (A4E8N3), 140 hp 30 prot mistform mirror image 14 regen, i only lost 110 gold in troops taking him down...
 the scales are so bad i was trying to avoid spreading dominion, until i started to risk dominion death - i think it was around turn 20 i was down to a combined total of 7 pts of existing dominion in the world... :O
 
 edit:  hmm, it might actually have been only 5 pts - i seem to remember having dom3 in my cap, and domions of 1 in two territories.
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				November 22nd, 2004, 07:31 PM
			
			
			
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 What use is the Astral magic to the dragon?  I know you can cast some useful things like Luck with Astral 1.  What else does he do with it? |  
	
		
	
	
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				November 22nd, 2004, 08:02 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: MP Game - European War 2 
 Luck, body ethereal, astral shield, astral weapon, cool evocations and even cooler thaumaturgies! |  
	
		
	
	
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				November 22nd, 2004, 08:28 PM
			
			
			
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 what can't  you do is the better question    
its very expensive, but adding luck and ethereal basically makes it extremely unlikely he'll pick up any afflictions wiping out indies.  astral weapon means he's a potent SC killer even into the late game.  and S9 makes him an astral king capable of natively casting wish, or whatever other high level ritual one might want.  or battlefield support magic. |  
	
		
	
	
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				November 22nd, 2004, 08:33 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: MP Game - European War 2 
 Indeed! But once he's killed some ~4 times he'll be in the mind duel range   |  
	
		
	
	
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				November 23rd, 2004, 01:00 PM
			
			
			
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 hmm, the hosting period keeps being reset.  I guess graeme has been having to reboot his server.
 edit:  hey cohen wake up!  just you left to go ;p
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				November 23rd, 2004, 08:00 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: MP Game - European War 2 
 Ok, All you European War 2 players - Arch says there's a new turn, though for some reason he's having trouble posting. |  
	
		
	
	
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 testing testing
 edit:  hmm, as soon as truper did his post i was then able to post again
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 new turn 
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