OT: What's your job/career??

Will · #1 November 27th, 2004, 08:48 PM

re: where to get best education after high school?

Well, it's my personal opinion that the best education you can get is teaching yourself. But, in the current marketplace in the US, a degree is pretty much essential. I know a lot of companies will toss out a resume that does not have the letters "B.S." or "B.A." somewhere on it, barring something insane like 10+ years of industry experience in something the company is looking for. It usually doesn't even have to be in the same field, unless the position is highly technical (engineers, architects, pharmecutical, etc.). So someone who got a B.A. in Classics can get a job as an advertising exec, or something else that is basically unrelated. The big thing that companies want to know is if the person can make it through a university education, what the student learns is largely irrelevant. All that matters is that the student learned SOMETHING.

Gandalf Parker · #2 November 27th, 2004, 10:11 PM

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Will said:It usually doesn't even have to be in the same field, unless the position is highly technical (engineers, architects, pharmecutical, etc.). So someone who got a B.A. in Classics can get a job as an advertising exec, or something else that is basically unrelated. The big thing that companies want to know is if the person can make it through a university education, what the student learns is largely irrelevant. All that matters is that the student learned SOMETHING.

Exactly true. Ive been on the hiring end in the computer networks field and I dont know how many times I heard "but I know all this" from high schoolers. Sometimes we would hire them into the intern program. Many of them DID know more than the college grads on the latest stuff but 99% of them ended up getting fired. For us.. college degree or military service was essential in a resume. I was sorry for some of the applicants but it just kept us from wasting our time.

Slick · #3 November 27th, 2004, 10:31 PM

Agreed. We have found also that another important thing that we look for on interviews is if the person worked while going to college. It shows that the person has some amount of responsibility and time management skills.

Slick.

Alneyan · #4 November 28th, 2004, 06:58 AM

Thanks for all your answers. I guess the Bachelor degrees are only useful to get to higher degrees in France; for example, there are some courses with a very high reputation at five years after High School, where companies may actually recruit students before they have their grade. That is the exception, and definitively nowhere near the general rule (which is: get your degree, and do something else on your own, will you?).

Of course, since there is no real difficulty in getting a university degree, no job would need any such qualification; if you have nothing better to do, you could spend ten years to get your B.A. here. And since most of our schools do not have actual tution fees, you do not have to have your own personal wealth to stay for a very long while in our universities.

Some students do have to work Deccan, especially in Paris, or if you have to rent your room near the university. The other solution is to take a specific loan, which may be a very good idea if you are studying in one of these schools actually giving you a useful diploma on its own.

Mephisto · #5 November 28th, 2004, 08:50 AM

You can't get certain jobs without University in Germany (like Medicine, Law/Judge, engineer). University is the "best" graduation you can get and companies expect it. You have nearly 0% chance to get higher end jobs without it.
I agree that some people study at university without a clear plan for their future but since you know have to pay a fee after you hit certain time-thresholds that number of people has decreased.