OT: You Know I Hate

[Atrocities]

I think this happened to a lot of people with SWG and a few that I know of for KOTOR. Great game concepts, but they loose ones interest over the long term.

[Randallw]

Its not so much that I hate them but I do get depressed that I lose interest.

SWG. Waited for years and even bought a new computer 2 years before it came out so I could play it (this was before they kept delaying it) and upgraded my system again when it arrived. All that anticipation and expense and I lose interest after 2-3 months. The expense isn't so bad, i've been able to enjoy lots of other good games.

KOTOR. Heard great things about it. Asked for it as a Christmass present. Lost interest. Its like I feel I should bother to start playing it again and finish it just so I didn't waste all that interest and money.

MOO3. Spent money buying it and became MOO after second game. Stopped wasting my time, but a waste of money none the less. Don't feel so bad about this one since I have learned it is common opinion it was a %@#%@. So not my fault

[David E. Gervais]

I found KotOR to be very well done and enjoyed it very much, but unfortuantely it has ZERO reply value. (the fact that it took me 4 days to complete the game means that it fell way short on the 'value' meter. Diablo 2 was a nice game, but you soon realized that the SP aspect of the game sucked. Finding sets and certain rare items was virtually impossible. In the end I lowered myself to using the D2++ mod almost exclusively. and that took much of the fun out of the game.

Many games that I bought in the past few years were very good, but fell short in the replay department. such titles as Far Cry, MoHAA, Deus Ex and KotOR were one shot pass through games. once completed, they left litle or no reason to replay.

Anyhow, that's my 2 cents.

Cheers!

[Randallw]

You finished KOTOR in 4 days . I played for weeks and when i stopped had only just got off the first planet. When I stopped it wasn't a case of "I'm not going to waste anymore time on this", more that I finished one day intending to return and never got around to it.

[Atrocities]

I don't hate the games, well with the exception of Civ III and SWG.

[Atrocities]

Games like SimCity 4 Rush Hour, SEIV, BOTF, Tribes, and a few other ones that I still enjoy playing, are examples of games done well. Lots of replay time, and modding fun.

[AgentZero]

I have to say, most of the games out there these days fall seriously short in the reply value department. I absolutely loved KOTOR (aside from the space battles, those were just a pain!), and it took me about 6 weeks to get through the whole thing (keeping in mind I don't have a lot of time for gaming these days). A couple days after I finished it, I loaded up a new game as a different character class and started playing again. I barely made it through the introductory sequence before switching off to do something else. There just wasn't any desire there to keep going.
Now take a game like Baldur's Gate II. I must have played that one through a dozen times as various character classes, because the game is actually different depending on what kind of character you play. Add the fact that the game was so massive there was just so much to do that you're bound to miss half of it your first time through, making each replay a fresh experience.
A lot of the problem with many games is that reviewers tend to praise games that take a large number of hours to complete, while reacting negatively to games that can be finished quickly. Which is fair, since if I'm shelling out money for a game, I want as much value for money as I can get. The problem arises in that many developers, instead of making large, rich, intriguing worlds that we can spend hours exploring, just make their games really, really hard, therefore you will spend a long time getting through them for the simple fact that you'll die so much.
Which is not fun. I think something that developers need to realize is that they make computer GAMES and the deffinition of a game, according to the dictionary is "An activity providing entertainment or amusement" (italics mine). ie: Fun.
Dying 20 times trying to complete a level is not fun. Heck, playing the same level 20 times for any reason, is not fun. Frankly, I would rather play a game that I finish in 2 days that is fun and enjoyable than I would spending 20 days slogging through a game that is just pointlessly hard.

Oh, and Atrocities, if you're refering to the Freelancer level where you have to flee to a jumpgate with half a bloody fleet after you, the only way I managed it was by cheating.
Pop open the PerfOptions.ini file located in your Freelancer game folder and change the following line:
DIFFICULTY_SCALE = 1.00
to
DIFFICULTY_SCALE = 0.0
Which will make you invincible. The difficulty scale is basically what percentage of their normal power enemy weapons do to you, so 1.00 would be 100%, 0.50 would be 50% and so forth. I personally ended up putting it at 0.30 and found the game still challenging enough to be fun, without having the joy sucked out of it by being pointlessly hard or too easy.

[Col. Mustard]

Actually, I loved Freelancer. Had no trubble with it at all, and overall, give it a 10-out-of-10. If you want, I could tell you exactly what to do with that race level. (In dublin, or something. Beat it the first try.) Email me at karatekid88@bellsouth.net, and I can tell you you are surely doing something horribly wrong, cuz that game is awsome. Best mod-able game I've ever seen to. Far better as far as modability and mod selection then this game, and BF1942. (and in response to the cheater, I actually need difficulty mods to make it fun, or play Online. Wich is a bLast! Not sure whats wrong with you guys... but Freelancer is NOT hard. And no, he's talking about a different level.one where you actually race through gates against some dude.)