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		Well, Sphinx used to be real baddie. Imagine getting 500-hp pretender to your citadel on turn 5! Unfortunately, it lost all ways of teleporting when it was balanced, not just the cheapest one that made it ultra-powerful. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I've been trying this lately.  Right now my angle is double-bless effects.  I'm in a multi-player game right now with the Flaming Head Baphomet with Astral-9, Fire-9.  The nation is Marignon, so the cheap little flagellants can hand out some good damage before dying. 
 
Also the Baphomet can teleport into the fray.  That's fun! 
 
In single-player right now I'm experimenting with Jotunheim, Monolith, Astral-9, Nature-9. 
 
Also I like the idea of taking an Oracle, Astral-3, and maximum dominion goodness.  That could be fun. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		About getting immobiles back home : you've to have Astral-2, and can script "Returning", a battle spell that returns you back home. 
Downside is that if the battle does not Last till the end of your script, you're stranded - until the next battle that is !     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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 What scales are you using for this?  I find a substantial defecit when I put it together.  Order 2, Sloth 1, Cold 3 (of course), Growth 0 (These are giants), Luck -2, Magic -2 (I'll get skulls quick enough)
 
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		ehhh, skulls aren't enough :O 
 
you should have magic 2 w/ the jots.  giants can deal w/ a bit of death - just get some wineskins going ASAP.  Also, w/ a bless strat, you can go w/ a mausoleum and sloth 3, since you're just buying commanders and woodsmen. 
 
so, order 3, sloth 3, cold 3, death 2, misfortune 2 magic 2 
dominion 7 mausoleum, seems to work. 
 
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you should have magic 2 w/ the jots.  giants can deal w/ a bit of death - just get some wineskins going ASAP.  Also, w/ a bless strat, you can go w/ a mausoleum and sloth 3, since you're just buying commanders and woodsmen. 
 
			
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		well, when i go for a jot bless-strat, as soon as i expand a bit, my secondary castle spam is pushing out a fair number of Jotun herse.  Herse are perhaps the best sacred unit in the game     woodsmen are good early is all.  but even at those settings, if you're careful w/ your forces, you can accumulate quite a few woodsmen too.  Of course, they still might not be able to deal w/ a real SC, but that's always a problem.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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