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Old December 8th, 2004, 01:34 AM
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I thought you meant to say serve the individual not the race, since you said before that you wanted to remove ethnic diversity, therefore eliminate the idea of race.
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Old December 8th, 2004, 03:11 AM
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I thought you meant to say serve the individual not the race, since you said before that you wanted to remove ethnic diversity, therefore eliminate the idea of race.
sorry for the confusion, I should have said Human race. All people should work together to care for the Human race as a whole, rather than advancing themselves at the expense of others.
It is a problem how to remove different opposing Groups. I don't want to resort to force and I can't see any other way except educating people to agree with others. The idea is not that low life people are as good as others but that no one is better than anyone else. For the drug addict, he must be rehabilitated and educated to understand his responsibilities, then made into a useful member of society. We merely have to determine how much money is necessary for a person to live comfortably and then each citizen has that much. They don't need to live extravagantly, just have the considered necessities. There are no rich or poor, merely world citizens of equal standing. People can still strive to excel, it will give them something to do and not make them feel guilty taking advanatge of the system, but they shouldn't be considered better than everyone else because of it just admired for their dedication. The Drug addict has a problem and he must be helped.
Let me finish with an example of what I consider refusal to accept what is best. The official goes to the farmer to explain that the government will relocate him and flood his farm.

Farmer: "my family have lived on this farm for 4 generations and I aint moving"
Official: "but sir, its just land. You will be relocated to another farm of equal value. If we flood this area we can irrigate more land and feed a million people".
Stubborn Farmer: "I don't care about 1 million people I aint moving"

I agree it would be difficult to convince everyone to think the same way so that the leadership can carry out what is necessary. Unfortunately every time I see anarchists throwing bottles at police I lose my belief that people can accept order. If an alien landed and said that in return for my dying he would ensure humanity was orderly and lawful I wouldn't think twice before agreeing.
Is my idea really that stupid?. I have heard worse, such as the preposterous idea that a human being is considered of less worth merely because of the colour of their skin. I am not calling for tyranny or anything I just want what I consider best for everyone. Perhaps I'm just misguided to believe that everyone else would agree. Starhawk, if your example is the truth, and I sadly think it might be, than my idea and humanity is doomed.

excuse me but I have to go take my medication. Just thinking about the problem is getting me depressed.
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'And the second is like unto it, to love thy neighboor as thyself.'
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We merely have to determine how much money is necessary for a person to live comfortably and then each citizen has that much. They don't need to live extravagantly, just have the considered necessities. There are no rich or poor, merely world citizens of equal standing. People can still strive to excel, it will give them something to do and not make them feel guilty taking advanatge of the system, but they shouldn't be considered better than everyone else because of it just admired for their dedication. The Drug addict has a problem and he must be helped.
Ah but the problem with this is that it creates a welfare state wherin I don't NEED to work to live, much like the way the Soviet Union provided a "basic living stipend" I believe it was called, every citizen got x-ammount of money whether they worked or not and look at how that went, a large ammount of people only worked when they were practically shoved in at gunpoint.
And can you really blame them? Humans by nature will not work for what we can get for free, if I can be paid the same as say a doctor for hangin out with my friends and family then why should I bother striving to be a doctor?

I understand your intentions are good but a welfare state where "everyone is paid equally" would not work very well, especially because some jobs are a HECK of a lot more stressful or dangerious then others and should be paid more money as appropriate to their risks and stress.

Now one thing I do agree with you on is the idea that humans needed to be trained to think about humanity and not just their own interests.
I mean let's face it do you know how many starving homeless people could be fed on the sallery of a single NFL player for just one year? a LOT yet instead we waste millions of dollars on unproductive, whiney, generally punk jerkass professional athletes that B and M when they don't get that extra ten million dollars when the average person would just like enough money to be able to take their family on vacation without going into debt.
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Now one thing I do agree with you on is the idea that humans needed to be trained to think about humanity and not just their own interests.
I mean let's face it do you know how many starving homeless people could be fed on the sallery of a single NFL player for just one year? a LOT yet instead we waste millions of dollars on unproductive, whiney, generally punk jerkass professional athletes that B and M when they don't get that extra ten million dollars when the average person would just like enough money to be able to take their family on vacation without going into debt.
That is the free market at work. As long as people are willing to buy tickets and/or watch on TV the players will continue to ask for more.
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