Conceptual Balance Series (Mod)

[odd_enuf]

actually caelum can't spam elementals, air ones still need gems, but you don't even need a level 9 bless to spam elementals, an earth 6 or 7 cyclops can cast summon earth power and keep the elementals coming the entire battle. I would recomend upping the fatige cost to 100-200, a very high level bless could still spam for a while, but would eventually run out.

odd_enuf

[Jurri]

100+ fatigue cost will then add a gem to the cost, so...

[Crash]

I had heard that the fatigue cost was set low to keep communions from killing themselves off with elementals after script ran out.

Adding a gem would solve spamming, but result may be that that spell is just never used.

What about raising path by one, and raising fatigue from 40 to 60? Would that make the spell still used/usable, but not overpowered or deadly to communions?

[Cainehill]

Well, the original elemental spells mostly took 2 gems; if they were 1 gem apiece they might be used....

I think the problem may be that if a communion can effectively use the spell, an uber mage (pretender, elemental king, etc) can spam it....

[Crash]

You have a good point.

Would modding the elementals themselves to make them a bit weaker be a solution?

[Edi]

All right, here are the readme files for the following mods:
CB Spells 1.6 and 1.7
CB Pretenders 1.9 and 2.01

If you're wondering about the 2.01 Version designation, it's because I fixed a couple of minor typos in the mod file and rearranged the pretenders to the same order they are listed in the readme so that future readme updates won't be such a goddamn fukking pain in the arse. The 2.01 Pretender mod is naturally included in the package.

Edi

[Edi]

Crash, I think the best solution would be to up the fatigue cost for the elemental summoning spells to around 90 to limit spamming (you could still spam if you had relief casters or bards when playing Man, but it would mitigate the problem somewhat. Adding a gem requirement for the full elementals would work, but I suspect the result would just be a lesser elemental spam.

Edi