So What Did You Score This Year?

Ragnarok-X · #1 December 26th, 2004, 08:18 AM

I got a new book, a new shaving-thingy and some other stuff i dont know the words in english for. One is a pair of shoes when you are in the house, which make your feets feel warm, the other thing is big thingy you put around you when you lay in the bed or are looking tv, makes you feel comfortable, too.

Sorry...

Raging Deadstar · #2 December 26th, 2004, 09:58 AM

Heh. I got about 6 books (Rule by Secrecy, Templar Revelation, K-PAX Trillogy and Jennifer Government + Two Preacher Comics) so my holiday will be a nice relaxing feet up by the fire and reading. Other than that it was Mainly clothes and stuff, nothing too interesting. Oh, and a Stargate SG1 Mug

David E. Gervais · #3 December 26th, 2004, 11:05 AM

Aaah, the good ol' "What did you get for Christmas?" Question..

2 Nice Short Sleve Cotton Shirts, and 3 PC games 2 of which I need to return due to error, Deus Ex 2: Invisible War [I got the French/Spanish/Italian Version and I wanted the english Version] and Everquest 2 which I will not open on the principal that I do not support games that sell for $80 and also insist on monthly fees to continue playing. This baby would end up costin over $300 dollars for a full year. It's a bad sign of things to come, I can see when we game players will be forced to belong to 'monthly' gamming clubs just to be able to play our games. All these Online games that require monthly fees should be blacklisted and forced off the market. Otherwiase WE will all suffer the consequences. At the very least, these Online games should allow the players to play amongst each other for free. Anyway, it's a sour note so I'll end my digression.

Oh, the other game I got works fine ans is called O.R.B. at first glance it does not look too bad. Finding the time to play it will be the real trick.

Cheers!

capnq · #4 December 26th, 2004, 02:08 PM

Dominions 2 and Interstellar Trader 2, and a check. I'm told that I also should have gotten some pajamas, but that package appears to be delayed in the mail.

David E. Gervais · #5 December 26th, 2004, 03:36 PM

Well, Boxing Day Sucks.. I managed to get one of the 2 defunct games re-imbursed. (Everquest 2) but because the Deus Ex 2 was 'open' they refused to exchange or re-imburse it. I even told them the salesperson (who was not there to my dismay) had assured me that if this DVD game did not have the english Version included, there would be no problem of exchanging it. Well, I spoke to the manager and he was adamant that 'open' packages were absolutely not exchangable or refundable. I spent some time trying to get him to see things my way and in my defense said "How am I supposed to know if the english Version is included or not if I don't at least attempt to install it?" I even asked that he boot the DVD and see for himself, but he basically wanted nothing to do with it. I then told him that I'll take a full refund on the un-opened Everquest 2 and leave, I further told him that even though I lost $30 on this gift, he has lost a customer. I think I got the better deal out of this. I guess he is absolutely in no need of new customers or cares if I come back.

Now, Do I write a nice letter and send this DVD to eidos or Ion Storm? and see if they would be willing to change this DVD into an English CD-Rom Version? Or do I just throw it on my shelf or into the garbage for all the good it will do me. (don't mind me, I'm just venting a bit.)

What I will do is give it away to a friend where I know that some enjoyment will be had by playing this game. (Hey, Maybe I'll find the game in the bargain bins in a month or two and have my cake and eat it too.)

Anyway, sorry for the rant, Cheers!

Alneyan · #6 December 26th, 2004, 03:59 PM

Well, you could look for a French/Italian player stuck with an English Version, and wanting an exchange. Now, that might be a tad bit complicated, as such exchanges would usually be the other way around (that is, a foreigner wanting to get rid of a translated Version).

What I would do is try to find Deus Ex 2 in English via P2P or something of the like. After all, you already have a legitimate Version of the game, and you should be allowed to download the game under your "one backup for your usage only" right (unless you are expressly denied this right by the EULA).

However, I am not sure if that is technically legal, as the game isn't completely the same, as the language would be different. I have tried to look up on that matter, but failed to find anything, so I guess changing the language of something you have already bought is a bit of a grey area. I think the current regulations in Quebec (if you still live there) don't help much either; Last time I heard from there, games *had* to come in French, but nothing on the topic of these other Languages. Isn't there a handful of Canadians speaking English? (Warning: sarcasm detected here. I know Frenchmen are a bit in the minority to say the least, except in Quebec)

I wish multiple language support would come by default for all games, or be offered via a patch of some sort. It isn't as if text alone would take a lot of space after all, though speech would be another matter. Oh well, I guess I have started to rant as well.

Fyron · #7 December 26th, 2004, 04:10 PM

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What I would do is try to find Deus Ex 2 in English via P2P or something of the like. After all, you already have a legitimate Version of the game, and you should be allowed to download the game under your "one backup for your usage only" right (unless you are expressly denied this right by the EULA).

You do not have the right to download a copy from an illegal source in any event. Also, a company does not have the ability to create and enforce illegal clauses in a EULA, such as violating copyright laws by saying you can not make as many backup copies for your own personal use as you want to...

Alneyan · #8 December 26th, 2004, 04:13 PM

Something I have forgotten on the specific topic of DeusEx: it may be worth a try to get the language-related files from English players. TTLG is a rather nice community for the games from Looking Glass and their splinters, and someone there may be able to upload the appropriate files somewhere. If you are lucky, Deus Ex 2 still has the original speech in the translated Versions, as Deus Ex 1 did.

Applying the English patch can do the trick for some games, but no promises here. If you are truly lucky, they will have made some international patch working on all Languages, and allowing you to switch the game back to English. Even language-specific patches can trick a game sometimes; whether it will work with Deus Ex is another matter. I don't have the game myself, so I cannot be more specific here.

Atrocities · #9 December 26th, 2004, 09:30 PM

Everquest is EVIL... Pure unadultrated Ferengi EVIL.

Atrocities · #10 December 26th, 2004, 09:33 PM

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David E. Gervais said:
Well, Boxing Day Sucks.. I managed to get one of the 2 defunct games re-imbursed. (Everquest 2) but because the Deus Ex 2 was 'open' they refused to exchange or re-imburse it. I even told them the salesperson (who was not there to my dismay) had assured me that if this DVD game did not have the english Version included, there would be no problem of exchanging it. Well, I spoke to the manager and he was adamant that 'open' packages were absolutely not exchangable or refundable. I spent some time trying to get him to see things my way and in my defense said "How am I supposed to know if the english Version is included or not if I don't at least attempt to install it?" I even asked that he boot the DVD and see for himself, but he basically wanted nothing to do with it. I then told him that I'll take a full refund on the un-opened Everquest 2 and leave, I further told him that even though I lost $30 on this gift, he has lost a customer. I think I got the better deal out of this. I guess he is absolutely in no need of new customers or cares if I come back.

Now, Do I write a nice letter and send this DVD to eidos or Ion Storm? and see if they would be willing to change this DVD into an English CD-Rom Version? Or do I just throw it on my shelf or into the garbage for all the good it will do me. (don't mind me, I'm just venting a bit.)

What I will do is give it away to a friend where I know that some enjoyment will be had by playing this game. (Hey, Maybe I'll find the game in the bargain bins in a month or two and have my cake and eat it too.)

Anyway, sorry for the rant, Cheers!

Write the letter to the publisher. In most cases if you send them the game they will send you a replacement.

It is a great game and I do hope you get it sorted out. And for the record what was the stores name that you tried to return the gift to? (So that the rest of us can avoid buying from them.)