MP Game - Back to the Fray (noob/int game)-running

[Edi]

Soapyfrog said:
Surely Edi you can summon Bane Lords... or better yet summon Vampires. IMHO Vampire Lords are excellent cheap SCs, and immortal to boot so if you wind up fighting a defensive war they are outstandingly cost effective.

Bane Lords, yes, if I wipe out all of my death gems. Death income is and has been throughout the game my weakest point, I just got shafted in that department when sites were allocated. Vamp Lords, I might be able to, but it's difficult.

Soapyfrog said:
I know Abysia does not have many death casters, but surely by now you must have some indep mages with death and blood... and once you summon one Vampire Lord, they can summon each other quite easily... all you need is a ton of blood!

I'll see what I can do to salvage things.

Thufir said:
Personally, I don't think it's so much a question of how Abysia fares vs. Man, but rather Man vs Abysia plus Atlantis (plus Ulm, if you can, or have brought Soapy over to your side). Clearly, I out-resourse Abysia right now, maybe even Abysia plus Atlantis, but I don't think the outcome is a given if everyone is ganging up on me.

True enough, but if you can decimate me quickly enough, I'll be out of the picture, and if I can't counter your tactics, it's what will happen. We'll see.

Thufir said:
OTOH, if the game is no longer enjoyable for you, I would understand that. I don't think its outrageous to turn Abysia AI, or we can also look for a sub (especially if odd_enuf or Soapy thinks that that is important).

Let us know how you want to procede.

I'm not going AI, I'm sticking with this until the end. Who knows what might happen.

Thufir said:
I really hate to give my enemies any intel on what works against me, but I will tell you Last turn was a bad turn for me, and that both you and Atlantis contributed to the damage done.

Well, it's all part of the service!
Glad to hear that my efforts are not completely in vain then. I do like the tools I've got, and there's something to be said for being immune to Fire Domes...

Edi

[Thufir]

We are now reset to 48hr QH, but obviously, I've had some difficulty keeping up. I'll see if I can find a way to get my turns done more quickly, but I may have to back off to 72hr QH.

[odd_enuf]

I'd say it was bad, i alone killed off a wished for nataraja with 3-5 artifacts, a large army including a bunch of storm devils, and 25 commanders, including 6+ fully decked out titans, several who were enslaved minded

[Edi]

I don't know what I've done, but apparently Thufir's forging industry has suffered some setbacks due to long distance artillery I provided...

Edi

[Thufir]

Working on my turn now - this time my excuse is that I've had the flu since New Year's Eve

odd_enuf said:
I'd say it was bad, i alone killed off a wished for nataraja with 3-5 artifacts, a large army including a bunch of storm devils, and 25 commanders, including 6+ fully decked out titans, several who were enslaved minded

odd_enuf, you exaggerate a bit methinks. However, simply killing my Nataraja was devestating enough. Your paralysis spam was a surprise, and a most excellent anti-SC tactic! I debated a long time whether to use the burning pearl or amulet of anti-magic in the Natarajas spare slot - I now am wondering how that battle would've gone had I chosen the amulet instead.

[Edi]

All right, I'm officially done for. I just lost six or seven provinces to ghostriders, had some of those taken over by blackhawks, had all of my SCs killed, or worse, charmed, and most of my remaining army destroyed.

My fire gem income has also been significantly cut due to Eternal Pyre being dispelled, I imagine Thufir was getting tired of having Skyfire raining down on his armies...

Anyway, the sum total of my situation is that what I can do from now on will be the feeble twitching of a near-corpse, and I certainly don't have anything capable of dealing with 6+ fully equipped Tartarians, a King of Fire, charmers, a Heliophagus and now two fully equipped Arch Devils (Ethanim and Furcas), and certainly not while having between three and six ghost riders or more cast at me every turn (because I hadn't managed to madcastle everything).

I'm not going AI quite yet, there's still some ways of hitting back and if nothing else, dumping my gems and items for someone who can make better use of them when I'm too far gone to do anything effective.

Edi

[Soapyfrog]

Ouch... somehow it didnt look that bad from my perspective!

[Soapyfrog]

Is this game dead?