Game Freezes

travislp · #1 July 25th, 2001, 03:31 AM

My game freezes and eventually locks up when I take a turn. This happens after I add components to the game. Any suggestions as to cause and possible solution

Suicide Junkie · #2 July 25th, 2001, 04:04 AM

Describe the components.

Likely, the problem is the AI design minister trying to build something illegal.

If an AI causes a RangeCheckError, then you will not see any indication, and the game will effectively freeze.

I had that happen in P&N v2.0, when the AIs decided to use 40 super solar sails, and the propulsion count went above 256.

If you describe your new component, I can probably guess the solution.

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travislp · #3 July 25th, 2001, 05:18 AM

I first added a new point defense cannon and had no problems. I then added a new armor type and half a dozen new shields. It was at this point that the game froze. The armor was a new type that increased the tech level to ten and the shields increased the tech level to 13. I made these additions and started a new game. On my first turn the game froze.

travislp · #4 July 25th, 2001, 05:01 PM

I attached the armor and shields I added to the game. As far as how long I wait before the game freezes it takes about a minute. When I press control,alt, del the game has stopped responding.

Suicide Junkie · #5 July 25th, 2001, 05:19 PM

Ok, three points:

- Even on my 1Ghz 256Mb ram machine, the (P&N2) AIs can sometimes take over a minute to process. The Windows TaskManager (Ctrl-Alt-Del) will give a "not-responding" tag to any program that has not refreshed its window in 30-45 seconds. The not responding tag means nothing more than that.

- At a glance, everything looks good, and the only thing I am not sure about is the 40Kt armor.

-Definitely try removing all the components, and adding them in one at a time until SE4 stops working. The component you added Last will likely be the problem.

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disabled · #6 July 25th, 2001, 05:38 PM

This is the same error in the SEorg Ultimate Mod I wrote. My only problem is that I might find and fix the error, only to have to find and fix it again! lol. It pops up whereever the hell it wants to. I'll just keep coding and hope I kill it one day.

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Marty Ward · #7 July 25th, 2001, 10:27 PM

Are you playing a high tech game?

travislp · #8 July 26th, 2001, 12:26 AM

No, I am not playing a high tech game. I start all of my games with the default settings as far a tech goes. I don't know why the game freezes since all the components I've added can't be researched until later in the game. The first new armor isn't available until tech level 7. So the computer players wouldn't have access to them on the first turn and yet the game freezes on the first turn.

Suicide Junkie · #9 July 26th, 2001, 01:03 AM

Ok, have you tried pulling the components out of the .txt file, then putting them back one at a time?

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Suicide Junkie · #10 July 26th, 2001, 01:40 AM

Ok, the armor and the shields. What is special/different about them?

I'm assuming you're starting with all tech levels researched.

Also, how long did you wait before deciding SE4 was frozen?