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Old February 8th, 2005, 08:36 AM

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I do not want to offend people.
Hi. I would like to add something to this thread. In my country (Russia) there is nothing wrong when i call a black person "Nigger". It just denotes that he is black. We do not call them Afro-Russians or something of the sort. The main idea is not to sound offensive. I may say to a person - You bookworm! And it`s ok. Or i may say - YOU BOOKWORM! And sound tooootttalllyyy different. So here - black people are blacks or niggers (does not always have to be mean or offensive). Asians are Asians (neutral) or slitty eyed (very mean). I have nothing agains over people. I am white, my girlfriend is half Indian/half Russian (unusual mixture )).
I am against only one issue. When minorities are... say... overacting... or... abusing the system. I`ve been to the States several times and i know some cases when Afro Americans simply pretended to be insulted and so on. And some innocent people had to suffer.
About slavery and stuff. Do the Americans have to pay till the last one dies out for the sins of their relatives or ancestors? Do the present generations of Germans have to pay for the WW2? I do not know the correct answer. I think that Hebrew people, blacks, and othes have to stop indulging themselves and use the system for their sole benefit.
In my country we also have different ethnic problems. Especially with people from the Caucasus.
If somebody is interested then i may outline the situation in Russia.
I repeat - I do not want to offend people.
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Old February 8th, 2005, 11:14 AM
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I have nothing against minorities making "a big deal" of it. They are a minority. Almost by definition that means that if they want equality (as a group) then some noise will have to be made. That goes for any minority whether its political, racial, gender, religious, lifestyle, or opinion. Of course it can be overdone or abused but that becomes an individual thing then. I have no problem with getting mad at an individual for how they go about it, doesnt change my opinion about the action in general or the group involved
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I do not want to offend people.
Hi. I would like to add something to this thread. In my country (Russia) there is nothing wrong when i call a black person "Nigger". It just denotes that he is black. We do not call them Afro-Russians or something of the sort. The main idea is not to sound offensive. I may say to a person - You bookworm! And it`s ok. Or i may say - YOU BOOKWORM! And sound tooootttalllyyy different. So here - black people are blacks or niggers (does not always have to be mean or offensive). Asians are Asians (neutral) or slitty eyed (very mean). I have nothing agains over people. I am white, my girlfriend is half Indian/half Russian (unusual mixture )).
I am against only one issue. When minorities are... say... overacting... or... abusing the system. I`ve been to the States several times and i know some cases when Afro Americans simply pretended to be insulted and so on. And some innocent people had to suffer.
About slavery and stuff. Do the Americans have to pay till the last one dies out for the sins of their relatives or ancestors? Do the present generations of Germans have to pay for the WW2? I do not know the correct answer. I think that Hebrew people, blacks, and othes have to stop indulging themselves and use the system for their sole benefit.
In my country we also have different ethnic problems. Especially with people from the Caucasus.
If somebody is interested then i may outline the situation in Russia.
I repeat - I do not want to offend people.

Yeah but Russia is also a very intolerant and "pro-white" country from what friends of mine (including a Russian woman) have said, they make a point of it for a matter of fact, and what you said just proves that, Nigger in every country it is used was an insult, and though you may say it's not in Russia I seriously doubt it's meant with affection. Just like if you were called Cracker you wouldn't appreciate it. Now like I said I've just heard this from friends and one Russian ex-pat but what you said sort of makes it more believable to me.

And yes I am totally against those idiots that want money because their ancestors were enslaved by some white person's ancestors, in that case I want some of them to pay reperations to England for the Zulu rebellions......especially since white people got the idea of taking blacks as slaves because African tribes sold each other to us constantly lol.
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I think it's in human nature to be afraid or wary of things or people who are not the 'same'.(If you really want to get down to it, we're all physiological the same. We've all got a beating heart, two lungs, a digestive system, two eyes, two ears, one mouth, two arms, two hands, and I could keep on going, but you get the point.) Instinctively, we had to protect ourselves from outsiders who may come and chase us away from our food, water and shelter.
But that's not the case anymore. We don't live in stone age anymore. What really shows that we are a civilized people is that we can keep those instincts to ourselves or maybe try not to have them. Everyone is equal should be treated equally. Everyone should also remember the golden rule, which sometimes is forgotten.

And as for getting compensated for past injustices against one's people, I agree with Starhawk. If society has to keep paying back for every single inequity done to someone, that's all we'd be doing everyday. That's out of the question. Everyone is basically equal and should be treated on a common baseline. No special treatment here or there.
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And yes I am totally against those idiots that want money because their ancestors were enslaved by some white person's ancestors, in that case I want some of them to pay reperations to England for the Zulu rebellions......especially since white people got the idea of taking blacks as slaves because African tribes sold each other to us constantly lol.
Starhawk, although in theory I agree with you, next time, choose your words more carefully, lest you wish to call the overwhelming majority of people on this earth "Idiots".
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