AI question - Surrendering?

[Atrocities]

The AI is not "easy" to exploit, it is a bit harder than that. But not by much.

PBW is definately the way to go if your looking for a challenge, but PBW games are veeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy slow games.

I recommend finding a someone who can play a few turn fests with you and play a game over Instant Messinger. You can get up to 50 turns in a session.

[CaptainAL]

How about empires that are dead? I played in a game where I was at war with a dead empire and the empire played out to the end. I had to capture every planet, even though my score was over 20%. I wondered if this always applies to dead empires, or perhaps this empire's AI did not allow surrender to begin with? I think I checked the AI file and it did, but I do not remember for sure.

[Arkcon]

CaptainAL said:
"How about empires that are dead?"

Well, if the empire loses every last planet, then no, there's no one to talk to. Those remaining "ghost ships" just sort of wander around picking fights with everyone until destroyed.

You may also be be describing a "practically dead" empire, the xenophobic races (Ammonkrie and Sergetti in the standard game,) have a higher threshold for all diplomacy conditions -- they have to like you more than other races do to give you a trade treaty, and you have an even higher in score to get them to surrender.

The TDM-Mod Pack takes this further, some races will never surrender or make treaties.

[CaptainAL]

Oops! In my post, I meant X20 score, not 20%. The race's AI file allowed surrender (score X10 if I remember right), the game allowed surrender, and the race had planets left - four or five I think. I had to capture them all, it would not accept surrender to the end. Just wondering if anyone else experienced this - or maybe did have a dead race surrender to them so I know this was just a fluke, somehow.