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Old February 15th, 2005, 06:21 AM
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Default Re: Lower level summons?

Bog Beasts are available for C'tis Miasma as starting spell, but I could not find a good use for them. They die pretty easily, but you cannot stack them with C'tis troops either, for Miasma is lacking 100% poison proof units and 50% resistance does not help at all against the bog beaste poisoneous aura.

Of course, one could stack them with VineOgres, but VineOgres are bad for Miasma, since they become diseased and suffer full from the effect (neither having a cold blooded, swamp survival or undead flag).

Maybe they are useful if they are buffed with some protection - or does anyone know some cheap meatshields that are both miasma & poison proof?
(Raise Dead, of course, but Miasma's Marshmasters need SkullStaffs for spamming it...)
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Old February 15th, 2005, 02:43 PM

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does anyone know some cheap meatshields that are both miasma & poison proof?
Constructs? Claymen or clockwork horrors perhaps? Not that either are all that cheap.
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Old February 15th, 2005, 03:45 PM
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Claymen cast by W9E4 Daughter of the Land are surprisingly cheap... And you also get Reanimation, Raise Dead/Skeletons and (although these aren't low-level anymore) Undead Horsemen, Banefire Archers, Enlivened statues and Demiliches.

I would love to get W9EX and Golem Cult, but there aren't many nations that I play so that they benefit from Magic 1+ and Prod 1+... And I don't think there is any that benefits of Enchantment in those, or any which would benefit from W9EX or WXE9, or even W9E9 enough for it to pay off. Golem Cult-boosted Claymen and Enlivened Statued would be interesting, but the need for both production and magic is a killer that puts off all Earth nations... Ulm takes drain and has no blessable units, Vanheim and Pangaea benefit of both blessings but need sloth to pay for extreme pretender.
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Old February 15th, 2005, 05:45 PM

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Endoperez, what about Machaka? It's an earth nation (okay, earth/fire/nature(/death) nation), which has blessable troops, has resource-intensive troops, mages that benefit from magic scale and hot temperature scale for extra points. And benefits from Enchantment, IIRC Flaming Arrows is from that research tree.

...I'm not sure, though, how even they would affort such an expensive blessings...
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Old February 15th, 2005, 07:15 PM

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Machaka seems to be the one that everyone who has talked about clay/golem cult has thought of. It is probably the best, but its blessable hunter spiders are pretty expensive. Like you said, its tough to get both scales and high bless.
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