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March 20th, 2005, 04:27 AM
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Re: Did God Invent Us, Or Did We Invent Him
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I think, no better to say that I believe, I believe that we are doing more harm in the long run by tampering with the genetic code, biological make up, and the use of hormons in live stock and in the field of bioengeneering than we could possibly even begin to comprehend now. By splicing this bugs dna with that bugs dna in the hopes of creating a super bug that eats bad bugs, we are putting ourselves, and indeed our world at risk. This goes for insects, animals, planets, as well as virus - bugs and such.
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So you're against animal husbandry? We've been genetically manipulating animals and plants for thousands of years. Genetic mondification isn't some bogeyman we can just invoke to scare people.
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March 20th, 2005, 01:18 PM
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Re: Did God Invent Us, Or Did We Invent Him
Take bananas, I mentioned them before as being open to extinction due to a lack of genetic diversity. Most livestock is the same way, it's part of the reason why Mad Cow and Hoof&Mouth diseases spread so quickly in the cattle population.
Let's say Cattle, Pigs, Goats, and a large vareity of popular fruits all go extinct. How much world starvation and suffering would that lead to? How many deaths? Genetic Engineering can prevent that. And don't forget the numerous genetic diseases that plague millions upon millions of humans.
As isntar said, Genetic Engineering isn't some boogymen that can be used to scare people one way or another.
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March 21st, 2005, 01:39 AM
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Re: Did God Invent Us, Or Did We Invent Him
ISTM that Genetic engineering today is comparable to the technology of Fire back in the stone age somewheres.
We can see it happening naturally, and direct it a little with breeding. We've just recently discovered how to start our own in a very rough manner by rubbing sticks and scraping flint.
We've got a long way to go before we can make the steam engine of genetics, and like fire, it will have its dangers long past the time when we do have fine control.
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March 21st, 2005, 03:52 AM
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Re: Did God Invent Us, Or Did We Invent Him
SJ, you raise a valid point. But, as I said, we shouldn't fear it or ban it. GM food is one example. The general public sees it as "frankenfood," which just is not true. Copious amounts of research has gone into this field, and I can say that the chance that someone will get hurt is nonexistant.
This does not mean that I am for any genetic modification. Responsible science is needed, and thorough investigation is always needed.
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March 21st, 2005, 09:45 PM
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Re: Did God Invent Us, Or Did We Invent Him
Instar is right, care has to be taken in this process. Many conservative agendas portray Genetics as a negative and evil thing, but it's far from it and only used to energize the close minded.
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March 21st, 2005, 10:27 PM
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Re: Did God Invent Us, Or Did We Invent Him
Actually I am against the genetic labratory gene splicing thing. I have to say that it alarms me.
A new thought:
What if God had nothing to do with our creation. What if God created the race, be it by evolution or by *ZAP* your created, that then after eons created us? What if they are here right now but we simply cannot see them. What if they can manipulate time in a way that we have not yet concieved of?
It was an amazing thought when I ponder the possibility that God may not have created us, but instead created, or had a part in, the creation of the races that in turn created us.
Think about it, here we are doing the samething now with genetics, creating new plant and animal hybrids. It is also quite possible that in the forseeable future that we might even create an Artifical Intelligence like androids, robots, and other. Mechonisims that can think and anticipate and interact with us. Granted they will not have a soul, the thing that makes us human, but they will have something entirely differant. Eventually the technology can develop to the point where our inventions will create / reproduce themselves, and quite possible, one day invent something on their own such as a new life form.
What if the cycle has gone on and one and on since the beginning of time itself?
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March 23rd, 2005, 03:54 AM
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Re: Did God Invent Us, Or Did We Invent Him
To mea more likely thought would be that god/alien created humans to improve or replicate himself, however we humans wouldn't remain under his control and we drove him off the planet and he took revenge on humanity before we finally got rd of him - assuming he existed in any form at all.
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