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August 13th, 2001, 05:02 AM
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Re: Unit only empires
quote: Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
Perhaps it would just be best to allow ships to maintain contact with other races, and leave it at that.
I agree on that point. Figure, ships have radio and other communications devices, so could send transmissions to other empires (assuming they still have contact). Units, having no such devices (fighters' wouldn't be powerful enough), could not maintain contact.
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August 13th, 2001, 02:57 PM
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Re: Unit only empires
Cynical question coming up. If you have gotten so knocked out of the game that you are down to ships only, what are your realistic chances of coming back to do anything significant? Given the exponential growth that most empires depend on, could you catch up again?
I am thinking that in a close fight, an ally who colonized different planets might help you out. Or in a game with unusual victory conditions you might be able to help. However, in a traditional, big dog on top wins, game, would it be realistic to expect to get anywhere? An ally would only let you get so big before eating you up and whoever glassed your planets is will be way ahead of you.
Not having played much against other humans, I would be interested to hear about situations where you might be able to do something in this situation.
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August 13th, 2001, 03:03 PM
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Re: Unit only empires
Does anyone remember why this change was made? IIRC originally (Maybe in the demo?) you didn't lose contact when your planets were gone. Or am I thinking of SEIII? It's all fuzzy at this point.
Anyway, if anyone else remembers that at one point you didn't lose contact casue your planets went away, do you remeber why it got changed?
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August 13th, 2001, 03:11 PM
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Re: Unit only empires
Yes. I remember it changed.
If all you have are ships left, as long as you have a colony ship (or can build one) and some population, you can come back if you play hard, but it will be quite a challenge.
If all you have left are fighting ships you can prep for one Last battle which would be fun.
Also if all an empire has are ships and they can maintain communication with other empires, you can still get them to surrender and get some nice, new (or old) ships.
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August 13th, 2001, 03:51 PM
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Re: Unit only empires
If yor ship(s) were combat- worthy you could go into battle for an ally in exchange for planets/ colonisers. Alternatively you could blockade worlds and refuse to leave until you were given a planet.
Also, don't forget that AIs will happily trade you a coloniser in exchange for any 2 ships.
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August 13th, 2001, 04:59 PM
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Re: Unit only empires
quote: Cynical question coming up. If you have gotten so knocked out of the game that you are down to ships only, what are your realistic chances of coming back to do anything significant? Given the exponential growth that most empires depend on, could you catch up again?
For one thing, the Nomads in my mod don't require planets to survive. With a fleet of robominers, and space yard ships, you can be a powerful force indeed, while having zero planets.
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August 13th, 2001, 08:46 PM
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Re: Unit only empires
Hey SJ, that is a darn good idea about the Palace Ability. You should E-mail MM about this idea if you haven't already.  Assuming they are even taking requests for added features.
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