Recruitable Unit Rebalance Version 7.51 Released.

[Arralen]

Saber Cherry said:
I'm trying to adjust the units and weapons to reach a certain goal... but, for example, I'm not entirely certain that crossbows, shortbows, and longbows were even contemporary.

At the Battle of Arsuf (1191 a.D.), the muslim attacked with mounted shortbow archers and javelin throwers on foot in a skrimishing way.

For most of the day, it was only the crusaders left column of spearmen and crossbows which fought back.

Interestingly enough, the muslim couldn't do much impact on the shielded spears or the felt (!) armored crossbows, but took heavy casualties from the bolts. Only the knights horses suffered badly from the constant hail of shortbow arrows.

You may also check the Wikipedia entries about Longbow and Crossbow - according to those, the Crossbow was used in Europe since 800, the Longbow since the 12th century. (by the welsh some hundred years earlier. Claims that it in fact dates back to prehistoric day I doubt sincerily. The romans never conquered the welsh hill country. But if they would have been met by devastating longbow archers, there shurely would be some written evidence, but I never heard of such.)

And furthermore, I can't really put each weapon into its correct role if the battlefield is too small to model that role, or lacks elevation required by a role, or if the engine does not model the degrees of armor-piercing or ability to wound without killing that are vital to accurately represent a weapon.
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The simple answer to your question is, I'm trying to fix them, but I'm not sure it's possible... I don't think that Illwinter's stats, my current stats, or your proposed stats are particularly good solutions, but maybe one of them is better than the other two, and approaching a good solution.

It shurely wasn't my intention to offend you.
In fact, I think your supposed changes will go a long way to make the missile weapons more realistic.
What they are not, as Frank claims, in the standard game.

And my suggestions wheren't really that much thought-out, but just some numbers I threw into the dicussion.
Some more numbers (must most likely be tweaked somewhat) and intended use of the weapon .. :
Longbow 45 (ballistical archery, even on rear echolons)
Comp bow 35 (ballistical archery on distant targets, or over front troops which are close by)
Shortbow 27 (harrasing fire from the 2nd line into the front of the enemies battle line, or short-ranged direct fire into non-missile troops)
Crossbow 27 (precision fire against "heavy" targets, NO ballistic firing)