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April 7th, 2005, 03:54 PM
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Re: Let\'s be friends (Getting AI to make peace)
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Then, about 20 years after I had discovered them, they contacted me and wanted a Trade Alliance...
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Was that 20 years or 20 turns? Because 20 years is 200 turns.
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April 8th, 2005, 12:43 AM
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Re: Let\'s be friends (Getting AI to make peace)
Well, I have never had success in trying to make peace with an A.I. once war breaks out. I have long since given up on trying to make the A.I. happy. By giving gifts, agreeing to all their demands, and not destroying any of their ships for a long time, you can eventually get them to be in brotherly mood but they never stop being at war.
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April 8th, 2005, 02:33 AM
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Re: Let\'s be friends (Getting AI to make peace)
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Was that 20 years or 20 turns? Because 20 years is 200 turns.
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It was years.
They had mined all the warp points into their system and I wasn't really in a position to research and build minesweepers. Eventually had to because my other enemy also started using mines.
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April 8th, 2005, 08:09 AM
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Re: Let\'s be friends (Getting AI to make peace)
Greetings,
I played a few games in the last month with the normal SEIV and the Star trek mod (I got the game 2 months ago).
I did not nail all the details about getting peace with an opponent at war, but usually this works:
1 - Oponent declares war.
2 - I wait 5 turns.
3 - Turn 6: I give 50k resource (any mix)
4 - Turn 7: I give as much resources I can, but max 30k. If it is under 30k, I throw in a few techs, system ownership.
5 - I ask for non-intercourse and give resources (over 10k)
6 - Oponen accepts usually except the aggressive (xenophobic) races.
7 - I continue to bribe and can get within the next 2 years a trade and research agreement.
However, I noticed a few times that the oponent feeling goes from neutral (can't recall how it is called exactly) to murderous in 3-4 turns, but the AI keeps the trade on.
Like I said, it worked most of the time. Maybe I have been very lucky or I am too much of a good begger...hehe
Thank you
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April 8th, 2005, 09:38 AM
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Re: Let\'s be friends (Getting AI to make peace)
I think I've been only trying to go to a grade agreement first, I hadn't thought about starting with a Non-intercourse agreement.
It's probably exactly it: there is a unwritten sequence of getting out of war that starts at NON-INTERCOURSE and works its way up from there along the list. It's the same thing as you never get a Trade and research agreement without first having a trade agreement, military alliance without first having a trade and research alliance, etc.
Thanks!
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April 8th, 2005, 11:05 AM
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Re: Let\'s be friends (Getting AI to make peace)
Check out some of the AI files in *_AI_Politics.txt for info on the relationship of anger, gifts, war, etc. on treaties. Specific AI empires may have their own values as well. I have had the Eee offer peace treaties while at war, but the Jraenar have never offered nor accepted a peace overture once at war. They might eventually, but I haven’t been patient enough to see.
Don't forget that if you are a Mega-Evil Empire your hopes of a “Quadrant is completely at peace for this many years” victory also goes away. I don’t know if MEE is permanent, but that was addressed in another thread.
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