Archery poll

[Gandalf Parker]

well Ive played games where resources were the deciding factor. It wasnt worth me saving gold to make bowmen somehwere else. I dont care as much about "best" as I do pros and cons.

If you nitpick the numbers to "best" then we will only have 6 units in the game. You might as well be playing chess.

[Boron]

Gandalf Parker said:
well Ive played games where resources were the deciding factor. It wasnt worth me saving gold to make bowmen somehwere else. I dont care as much about "best" as I do pros and cons.

In SP yeah but i have to admit that i am even there kinda a powergamer . In MP most other ppl are also .
But that's only personal taste . I made 3 quickfights in your nice minimap 35 machaka archers vs. 40 slingers and in one of the 3 fights , entertainingly the first one , the slingers won .
So thnx to the really good dice roll system though the slingers are a bit worse as shortbowmen they are not so useless that they are never worth being bought also .
Especially by arco cause they are their only missile troop . It is always a question of availibility too . 99% of the Man players will always buy longbowmen instead of slingers but some Arcoplayers will buy slingers until they find e.g. cheap indy x-bowmen or archers .

Gandalf Parker said:
If you nitpick the numbers to "best" then we will only have 6 units in the game. You might as well be playing chess.

Which 6 units that would be ? I would say that at least 50 units are very useful

[NTJedi]

Boron... Gandalf...

Slingers would be worth considering if their purchase price dropped by 2 gold per unit... otherwise they're rarely worth it based on morale and precision.

by Sandman
I voted 'I find them useful' for blowpipes, even though I don't....

I rarely have seen the blowpipe dudes use their archery poison pipes even when able to... so I rarely get them except for those extreme/scary conditions. Also their precision would have to be more accurate for me to consider them seriously in a marching army.

[PDF]

NTJedi said:
Boron... Gandalf...

Slingers would be worth considering if their purchase price dropped by 2 gold per unit... otherwise they're rarely worth it based on morale and precision.

I rarely have seen the blowpipe dudes use their archery poison pipes even when able to... so I rarely get them except for those extreme/scary conditions. Also their precision would have to be more accurate for me to consider them seriously in a marching army.

Mmmf, even at -2 gold I wouldn't buy slingers if their weapons still are so much crap.
Same for blowpipes, they have a very limited usefulness for sneaky tactics, but are horribly weak, only 1 time out of 10 (100?) do they manage to use their pipe before routing !

[sushiboat]

For reference, what is the distance from one end of the battlefield to the other, in terms of range? What is the distance between two opposing units who are at the very front and center of their formation spaces?

[Chazar]

sushiboat said:
For reference, what is the distance from one end of the battlefield to the other, in terms of range? What is the distance between two opposing units who are at the very front and center of their formation spaces?

According to Liga's Manual addenda, the entire battlefield is 58x28 squares wide, that is 24x28 per army plus 10 neutral columns in between the opposing forces. However I did not count that myself...