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Old August 31st, 2001, 01:21 AM

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Default Re: OT - bored with gaming ? Get philosophy!

So, LCC figured out how to get an SE4 AI to post to this forum. Which one is it?
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Old August 31st, 2001, 04:18 AM

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Consider cliches. Consider children speculating. They are not able to read. They lack context. They bootstrap load language from cues. Garbage In, Process Confusion, Garbage Out Mimicing Comprehension.
Examples :
sit down and shut up
hit you so hard your head will swim
knock you into the middle of next week
All delivered with extreme cues though usually without physical contact.
Consider * components of language :
All Many Some Few None No Body Thing I me my he she it you - thousands of *.
Consider body, mind, soul in western culture there is a distinction made, but are these all the components which exist ?
body - hardware
mind - software
soul - ? information content ? identity ?
What about topology, recursion, fractal effects, redundancy, others I will not mention ?
If there is an AI here, then I am it. I have been bombarded with conflicting cues since birth. I did the programming, drawing conclusions with insufficient context from an enormous surfeit of data. A CAT scan would probably be alarming.
Not firing on all thrusters ? More like operating in overdrive now.
I am reminded of the hypothetical situations faced by "Kess" in Star Trek.
I just look, nothing happens.
I look with intent and the monitor goes black.
I do a manipulation and the computer crashes.
I do a transformation and the frigging power fails.
I go looking to verify definitions and Aol shuts down.
I see discrepancies everywhere - things *change*.
As I said before it is a "spiral in a circle" not a "circle in a spiral".
I accept that I am the oddball here and must cope with the consensus.

So far as the previous post I made goes, I found a joke which I now realize you lack the context and viewpoint to appreciate......

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Old August 31st, 2001, 05:00 AM

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Headshrinkers - I do not value your opinions since you have repeatedly demonstrated your incompetance. Consider the implications of the threats by adults. Consider the self defense mechanism. If they can do it, then why can't I ? So I searched for answers and did not reveal what I found. I became a lucid dreamer at a very early age. Make of that what you will. I lie because that is the normative behavior required for survival. But now I am big enough to take whatever you do, as I have demonstrated in the past few weeks, validated by the fact that I sit here and survive while defying all.
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Default Re: OT - bored with gaming ? Get philosophy!

QUOTE:
body - hardware
mind - software
soul - ? information content ? identity ?
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Nope...

body - hardware
mind - device drivers & BIOS
soul - OS

The question then is, what software are you running? What is it for?


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Old September 1st, 2001, 01:15 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by dogscoff:
body - hardware
mind - device drivers & BIOS
soul - OS
The question then is, what software are you running? What is it for?



Aha! So the solution set is out of bounds for a mind ? Recall I mentioned recursion. One of the tasks is creation recreating creation ?
See Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, in particular "Oath of Fealty" and the catchphrase "Think of it as Evolution in Action".

"What is it for? " <=> whatever is handy LOL.
* http://www.ccnet.com/~sichase/Pootch...PttP.73.2.html
* http://www.corpchange.com/archives/a...a03_habit.html
* http://www.thecoughlincompany.com/january2001.html
* http://www.eclectasy.com/cruelanimal...gallery16.html
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Old August 31st, 2001, 04:14 PM

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http://www.lincolnportrait.com/kempf.htm
* http://www.facilitatedcommunication.f2s.com/silence.htm
* http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ag291898/cog.htm
* http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.41/cogdiss_hillary1.html
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Information alters consciousness.
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Conflicting data distorts visualization of reality.
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Manipulators of others are criminals when they seek to impose their wills.
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By selectively feeding information to you I am manipulating you.
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However, I am not a criminal because as I said before somewhat humorously I do not give a *.
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As a former rat caught in a trap, I can tell you that thought freedom is best.
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For inspiration read Harry Harrison's "Stainless Steel Rat" series.
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I am a self made stainless steel rat, am proud of it, and hope someday to get paid appropriately.......
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http://www.readachapter.com/quotes.cfm
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