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May 15th, 2005, 02:29 PM
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Re: OT: A Dismal End For Star Trek
If there is a topic in the B%G forum we should move this one over there as well. And yes, it was a very insulting final episode for an otherwise fine series.
I am not a professional writer, but I can tell you that any one with any skill could have done a far better job with that final episode than what was done. It truly stinks and it was done dilibrately to punish the cast, crew, and fans of both Star Trek Enterprise and Star Trek in general.
This would have been a good single episode, say for the stupid part where they allow aliens to board without challenge and Trip commits suicide.
However this can be fixed by books and hopefully in the future, albeit an overly optomistic pipe dream, a real two hour final movie like what was done with Farscape.
When it comes to UPN, if the show doesn'talk getto talk, or have references to rap music or other "socially geopolitically correct" and sometimes racisit induendo, then it is not for UPN.
The season was to be 24 episodes, but in January they cut the shows budge by over half and the decision was made that that in order to try and keep the remaining shows up to the quality of the previous ones, they would have to drop to episodes. Everyone can see for themselves how the show suffored because of this. Normally a show like Enterprise would have a running time of 48 to 51 minutes, but Enterprise was little more than a half an hour show at an average running time of 41 minutes. You cannot develop a fan base for a show if it is consistantly being interupted by UPN commericals and crap.
Enterprise was a far superior show to that of say Andromeda, yet even Andromeda got a five year stint.
It sickens me deeply as a fan of star trek to have watched this final episode. It truly was an insult.
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May 15th, 2005, 05:05 PM
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Re: OT: A Dismal End For Star Trek
Well AT actually I greatly enjoyed Seasons 1 and 2 of Andromeda until they fired Robert Wolfe because they wanted the show "Made more understandable" I.E. dumbed down for the idiots watching it that didn't get the plot (rolleyes) don't those idiots think that if we didn't get the plot we wouldn't be watching it!?
To be Blunt Braga doesn't give a damn in hell about ENT he's already got his writing stint on a new Sci-Fi series that will premier late this year on Fox.....and it shows that to him the last few eps of ENT were just "ah damn I have to finish this" so he just blew it to hell.
Okay THEY KNEW they were boarded by aliens yet the "So far" fast acting MACO defense teams didn't bother showing up? and Trip this brilliant young engineer couldn't think of anything better to do but blow hismelf up WHAT THE HELL!?
And it was an OLD episode of TNG to boot why didn't they at least show it from an EE point of view say....during Insurrection where Picard had to question the whole "Taking orders vs doing what is write" thing?
And it was just an ignoble slap to the face that Trip survived the Xinid incident to be killed by the "Alien Mob".....and Archer was like "Dang that sucks" but not much else they were coworkers for over a decade by that point and very good friends and the best they got was an "Oh damn" I feel sorry for those poor actors they are all pretty good actors (Blalock still bugs me) and they deservered a better send off.
Well on the positive side for some of them anyway:
Backula is going back to stage and show
Linda Park is moving on to big screen movies
The guy who plays Malcom is going back to England to act there.
The others I don't know about but I wish them the best in getting a new show, movie or whatever because they definately deserve it.
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May 17th, 2005, 01:27 PM
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Re: OT: A Dismal End For Star Trek
It might have made an interesting regular episode if some adjustments were made to the story, but for a series finale it was horrible choice. 
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May 17th, 2005, 03:04 PM
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Re: OT: A Dismal End For Star Trek
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It might have made an interesting regular episode if some adjustments were made to the story, but for a series finale it was horrible choice.
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May 18th, 2005, 12:35 PM
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Re: OT: A Dismal End For Star Trek
I got the distinct impression that the writers were saying,
"So, then fans and actors don't like our brilliant writing, huh? Well we'll show YOU!
We'll kill off a popular character with no emotions shown,
we'll setup a huge speech for 3 seasons about the birth of the Federation then cut it off
then we'll remind everyone that we USED to have a good show by putting this puny little Enterprise show in the context of our only real success, TNG. So THERE!"
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May 18th, 2005, 09:19 PM
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Re: OT: A Dismal End For Star Trek
The mirror universe episodes were just awesome. I love old school Trek hardware. No treknobabble required. That's why war is cool.
But then they cut off that story, left it with no ending, and started some story about some baby. Then the last episode takes place several (missing) years later. The Andorian guy shows up again out of the blue. Trip dies for no apparent reason. And then the formation of that atheistic communist Roddenberian utopia we've all been waiting for was thrown in there as an afterthought.
The parallel story with Riker and Troy had no real ending either. Riker's conclusion: to do the right thing. Duh, Riker. I could've told you that in the opening credits, we could've skipped the rest of the episode, you could get back to kicking Borg hiney and I could watch Law & Order.
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May 18th, 2005, 10:12 PM
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Re: OT: A Dismal End For Star Trek
One thing that would have made the series very cool is if they would have established that the Romulan war had occured just PRIOR to Enterprise. Then we could have had a few Romulan intervention episodes that would have been a hell of a lot better than the ones we did get.
Plus it would have given the show a known enemy of focus and a secondary purpose for Enterprise.
In fact if there was ever to be a TV movie for Enterprise, it could be to tie up all of the loose ends and fix that horrible series ending.
Future Archer goes back in time and saves Trip from being killed. It would be like what Admiral Janeway did to save Voyager in its series finally. Her future was changed but by giving up her exsistance, she saved her crew and got them home sooner.
A simular thing can be done with Enterprise to tie up the Temperal Cold war loose threads and save Trip. It would be an awsome show if written well.
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