SEIV is being Pirated

Richard · #1 August 24th, 2001, 03:46 AM

Which forums?

We do follow up every warez report, but unfourtanetly it is next to impossible to handle all of them.

Just this Last week we called the FBI about someone who was selling illegal copies on ebay.

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PurpleRhino · #2 August 24th, 2001, 04:07 AM

Damn that sucks! I hope you pin their asses to the wall! I still can't believe that some ppl think that they can pirate games, and not hurt the companies making them... Are they truely THAT stupid? Somebody should wake these people up to the fact that if everybody pirated, NO company would both making games... and then they would have NO games to pirate OR play! Now I will admit that I am not guilt free... I have played some pirated games. But I will buy them if they are worth playing. But I have been stung WAY too many times to buy a game without playing it. I think I have probably over 300 (if not more) games that I have boughten over the years... which if you assume at least $40 per game... is $12000!!! Dang, now that I look at it... maybe I'll start pirating more... J/K!!! But seriously, I REALLY do hope you get those guys.

Deathstalker · #3 August 24th, 2001, 04:14 AM

One of the problems with pirating is that it is 'cool', and the 'in thing' to do these days....I mean, heck, look at Napster, everyone was cheering them on and not understanding what Groups like Metallica were saying....the main argument was summed up best by Kid Rock: 'Heck, I'm making millions, what do I care?'(or something to that effect)...people pirate and think they are 'sticking it to the Evil Empire/Corporate Giant'....it's just not true...I havn't pirated since my Commadore 64 days and won't, it is just not fun...It's also too easy to do, most computers come with burner installed and almost any 14 year old 'geek' can crack the protection on any game....ugh!, this is (if you can tell) one of my pet peeves...

This is NOT a hackers movie or some such thing, this is real life, and stealing (in any form) is wrong, some people just NEED to grow up...

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Atrocities · #4 August 24th, 2001, 04:17 AM

SE IV forums (EzBoards) {Link from Malfadors links page or from my links page.}was were the topic was posted, but it has since been locked. Perhaps the Admins of that site agree that discussion on how to pirate material, especially the game that they founded their site to support, is sick and wrong.

At least it appears that way.

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BeeDee10 · #5 August 24th, 2001, 11:19 AM

One moderating factor to keep in mind is that not every warezed copy of SEIV is a "lost sale" for Shrapnel/Malfador; the vast majority of the people who download these things still wouldn't buy a legitimate copy if they _couldn't_ get it for free. There's an idiot I know who keeps pestering me to give him a copy of the full game since I recommended it to him. I keep on refusing, but he hasn't gone out and bought a legitimate copy as a result. He hasn't even bothered to expend the effort to find a warezed copy elsewhere.

I'm not condoning the practice, of course, but one shouldn't panic when one reads things like "10,000 copies of Program X that normally cost $50 each were pirated, therefore Company Y 'lost' $500,000." The actual reduction of potential income is probably much less.

Dravis · #6 August 24th, 2001, 12:32 PM

Yes, but I still think those Pirators SHOULD GO TO !*#@ !!!

Saxon · #7 August 24th, 2001, 03:09 PM

Couple of issues that I would be interested in hearing people�s thoughts about:

1. I, as a teenager and university student, was a regular pirate. Then I got a job, and realized what it meant to earn your money. I stopped pirating and started paying, as I would expect the same from others. Are most of the pirates �kids� or is this a big thing across all ages?
2. Where I used to live, there was a used bookstore, that also bought old games. They would then sell the games at a lower than retail price. Some people bought, burned copies, then sold it back. Others would play the game till they were tired of it, then sell it back. Where do these two activities fall in the eyes of the law and of people on the forum? Is it different than buying and selling used books?

I am interested to see what you all think.