SEIV is being Pirated

disabled · #1 August 31st, 2001, 01:43 AM

About Beowulf and other classic texts, they are public domain, even many translated forms, as the author(S) are all long gone and many of the thousands of translators are dead from old age of getting run down by the devil car running them down.

Only recent translations and commentary can be copyrighted and in the case of classics, you must prove you did not get it from newer services, which very easy if you go to a used book store.

Either way, I doubt anyone will solve the copyright issue in the next few decades. All I know is that I get radio access for free, but my cable TV bill is greater than my electric bill, and just about all forms of media entertainment (books, periodicals, shows, etc.) requirement payment except the radio.

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Richard · #2 August 30th, 2001, 02:07 PM

Some good discussion going on here.

As far as the download option for a game like SE:IV. We have to go one way or the other with a game. The main reason is because if it is a download only game the manual will be electronic. Once we go down that road it is an easy pirate target. Manuals are the number one anti-piracy device that I can think of. Plus if we make a game a download most major sites will not review it since they look at that as shareware.

As far as the multiple PC's in one house I have no issue with that myself personally, I think that is a silly license issue. IN fact have you guys seen what they plan to do with Windows XP to "fix" that problem, scary stuff.

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tesco samoa · #3 August 30th, 2001, 02:37 PM

Richard are you sure you want to throw MS into this topic. I can see about 1000 Posts coming up. As a developer I find MS knows only one thing about copy right. Copy Right. And then defend it.
EULA's are horrible. There is nothing like buying a product and seeing in bold letters "by opening this product you agree to the EULA agreement located on the cd" Then reading it and disagreeing with it. What do you do.
Can't take it back to the store.

Do you people ever read the EULA's you agree to by just signing up to a web site.

Especially the privacy areas or the idea that anything you write becomes the property of the hosting site.

And another thing.

The way i see this Copy right thing going is that it will get to the point that you will have to copy right your own personal video's (trips, backyard bbqing birthdays etc...) pictures etc...

And to do this you will have to pay for that right from some company like MS and if you do not you will not be able to play it on any electronic equipment you own.

Same with music.

I can see it going that way.

I hope it does not happen.

It is not a criminal activity.

If it is then a rolling stop at a stop sign is a criminal activity. And you are a criminal if you do it.

Now all this can change if the Music industry , software industry place their product and consumer ahead of the margin and the stock holder.

But I think greed will win out.

Ethics and moral stances do not belong in this arguement. That is why the laws have to be worked out. It will take time and I do hope they keep the consumer in the best interest. But in the battle of control the consumer has the shallowest pockets.

I think I have even lost myself on this post.

Later.

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tesco samoa · #4 August 30th, 2001, 03:02 PM

http://promo.net/pg/

is the link

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disabled · #5 August 30th, 2001, 04:03 PM

Besides paying a subscription to use my computer and copyright overload, one other thing DRIVES ME INSANE.

I recently read that several television networks were asked by several advertising firms if they could 1.) Place ads in the lower right hand corner of the screen DURING TV SHOWS and 2.) SUPERIMPOSE images over the screen during television shows.

Honestly, I want to watch TV, NOT infomercials. Who wants to watch the opening shot of the new enterprise with a nice MCDONALDS logo splashed on top of it.

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#6 August 30th, 2001, 04:21 PM

In case there is any doubt, everything I have posted at Shrapnel Games' Forums is the intellectual property of Shrapnel Games' Forums. This should be implicitly understood by anyone using a forum.

I gave you a couple hours work providing a general web router data structure. To effectively use it you need algorithms which create a tolerant adaptive system. I can easily do that too, but giving it away for free would be cheating all the dummies out there who struggle so hard and still write programs full of bugs.....

dogscoff · #7 August 30th, 2001, 04:22 PM

Picard: Replicator, Earl Grey Tea, hot. Actually, cancel that, I think I'd prefer an Ice cold Coca Cola(tm). Mmmm, just can't get enough of that taste...

This idea might take off for a while, but I can't imagine it proving too popular. I think the general trend in advertising lately has ben towards th subtle. Advertisers will soon realise that if their advertising is too intrusive, it will generate a negative response from the purchasing public. I hope so anyway.

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