Interesting Site: Wheeled vs. Tracked AFV (US)

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SCAJolly said:

It has struck me that someone experienced, and who might have some insight on the topic in question, could write their articles on Wikipedia, yeah. At least more insight than one who denies a possibility without really supporting that denial with facts.

Experienced in readmitting faulty articles to Wikipedia ad nauseum?

Oh please...

The essays on Wikipedia are open source and can be edited at will, being stubborn and resubmitting your view is what makes articles survive there, not being "experienced"

FAS is unreliable at best, and is essentially a bunch of website claims gathered into one page, some even seemingly taken from Wiki...

Wikipedia is a pretty cool source, but its NOT RELIABLE! Especially when asshats with an agenda like Sparky are always loose.

Trusting Wikipedia is like trusting the loudest screamer out on the street because you hear him best...

Do yourself a favour and search "mike sparks gavin" and "mike sparks usmc" on whatever search engine you prefer and see if what you come up with tells you anything.

This guy is a serious adherent to the "repeat it enough times and it become truth" paradigm.

Oh, and please sign up on the petition "for the widow"...

If you want to, I could phone the American DoD tomorrow (Sunday's sleep-day) and ask them. Or would you rather I didn't quote such hilarious sources, and rather found someone reliable (please, mention some if you'd like)?

What now? You need my permission?

What will it tell you?

1; That its not its OFFICIAL nickname (nobody claims that...yet...).

2; wheter the individual answering subscribes to the "Gavin" mythos or not.

3; That they are busy and have better things to do?


Btw, "Gavin" or not, isn't this pretty OT little troller?

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Official nick? You said, I quote: His main objective is to immortalize himself by fooling people into thinking the M113 was ever called "Gavin", a moniker he himself invented...

You don't put much fact to back up your own accusations, and you ridicule arguments with a "Haha" and a "No, wrong". That's extremely easy. If you cannot lean back on such a tiny issue as an unofficial nick (and what I pointed out was never that the M113 was officially nicked Gavin, what I pointed out was that your initial statement was wrong, seeing as someone early on had in fact called the M113 Gavin), when you provide no better alternatives to what is being suggested, you are much too involved in the discussion. If you cannot remain a tad objective and admit you have some unsupported believes, there's not much more to your arguments than the typical "My father could beat your father", followed by "Nuh-uh" and "Yuh-uh".
Myself, I think FAS, Wikipedia and others provide the M113 with an un/official nick of "Gavin" for a reason, be it a good one or not. However, your initial point (which was the one I was after all pointing to, but which you feel forced to defend above all and a potatoe) has been corrected: It was not the idea of the site's author to falsely make people believe the M113 was called Gavin.
If you feel the need to read between lines that are not there, that is not a liberty I will take away from you, but there's little reason to defend a grain of sand.

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SCAJolly said:
Official nick? You said, I quote: His main objective is to immortalize himself by fooling people into thinking the M113 was ever called "Gavin", a moniker he himself invented...

Have I denied this?

And didn't I write that nobody claimed it was official yet?

You reply as if I accused you of having stated that it is, how kafkaesque can this thread get? lol

You don't put much fact to back up your own accusations, and you ridicule arguments with a "Haha" and a "No, wrong". That's extremely easy. If you cannot lean back on such a tiny issue as an unofficial nick (and what I pointed out was never that the M113 was officially nicked Gavin, what I pointed out was that your initial statement was wrong, seeing as someone early on had in fact called the M113 Gavin), when you provide no better alternatives to what is being suggested, you are much too involved in the discussion. If you cannot remain a tad objective and admit you have some unsupported believes, there's not much more to your arguments than the typical "My father could beat your father", followed by "Nuh-uh" and "Yuh-uh".

Yeah, thats what I'm doing...

Read your own latest post again perhaps?

Myself, I think FAS, Wikipedia and others provide the M113 with an un/official nick of "Gavin" for a reason, be it a good one or not.

Wikipedia doens't "provide" anything except a place for users to write whatever they wish, which some people abuse for kicks.

However, your initial point (which was the one I was after all pointing to, but which you feel forced to defend above all and a potatoe) has been corrected: It was not the idea of the site's author to falsely make people believe the M113 was called Gavin.
If you feel the need to read between lines that are not there, that is not a liberty I will take away from you, but there's little reason to defend a grain of sand.

Do as adviced and achieve enlightenment is advice ALL should take to heart.

How about we drop the Gavin-jousting, its irrelevant, OT and we've all stated our stands, mkay?