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July 19th, 2005, 09:24 AM
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Re: Problems with air launched weapons.
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Also, i find most aircraft fired misssiles not as accurate as they should be. (During desert storm,IIRC, Mavericks had about 80-90% hit rate. In game, if i'm lucky , its 30-50%.)
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Consider that the figure you quote about ODS probably includes a LOT of large non-moving targets such as bunkers, roadworks, radars...
About cluster bombs, well, I admit I have seen my share of ineffective airstrikes, but I have also seen infantry companies wiped off by one MLRS salvo...
And MLRS CM rockets have just the same parameters as the AP cluster bombs.
A detailed relation of the effects of cluster bombs following HE pen and HEK would be fine to have, though I understand it could get quite cryptic. HE pen looks clear enough, but does the HEK stands for the ability to kill infantry? And what about the APK, which incidentally is 0 for most cluster weapons?
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July 19th, 2005, 09:35 AM
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Re: Problems with air launched weapons.
AP cluster are not effective against MBTs and other heavy tanks, but try it again BMPs, no one will survive... The most kill I have seen was a B-52 that killed with one of his 32 AP cluster bombs 6 BMPs...
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July 19th, 2005, 09:49 AM
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Re: Problems with air launched weapons.
Loktarr is right. Cluster bombs and MLRS are most effective against unarmored targets. IRL MLRS is used against artillery, especially towed tubes.
Plasma makes a good point about the Maverick, but I think it ought to be more accurate against AFVs. Perhaps 75%-80%
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July 19th, 2005, 10:22 AM
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Re: Problems with air launched weapons.
I agree, clusters work great against soft targets. But even against lightly armoured vehicles... i don't complain about lack of kills - (that i would understand), but about lack of hits. IE, dropping single AP bomb on tank group described in my first post should generate at least 3 - 4 hits (But i agree, that most of that hist should be " Not penetrating" against modern MBT's).
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July 19th, 2005, 10:46 AM
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Re: Problems with air launched weapons.
Give all aircraft armed with guided bombs or ATGM rangefinder rating 14-15, same as helicopters have.It will improve accuracy of them to 60-70% with more succesfull hits.
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July 19th, 2005, 11:59 AM
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Re: Problems with air launched weapons.
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don't complain about lack of kills - (that i would understand), but about lack of hits
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that's right, it's a problem I encountered but not every time...
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