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July 19th, 2005, 09:51 AM
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Re: The Merkava 4 MBT
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You seem to ignore that the ROF is only used in SP for determination of ROF for indirect arty fire, so it' totally useless in the case of a MBT, for which the ROF is only determinated by the experience of the crew...
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Mmh, you seem to be right, I don't know why I thought the Leclerc actually had more shots than the Abrams. What disturbs me though is that I just tested the thing, but I was unable to change the ROF ratio of my tanks... Edited a test scenario, deployed some tanks, edtied their data to have a range of ROF values with constant M/E, but when testing the scenario all my Abrams were back at ROF=6. Am I missing something or have I done something wrong?
Anyway I remind reading in some help file that the actual number of shots was related to a ROF/warhead size ratio. Is that only for artillery? If so, how can there be some discrimination among similar weapons with actually different ROFs IRL? |
July 19th, 2005, 09:53 AM
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Re: The Merkava 4 MBT
Here are the formulas for ROF:
Shots= Exp/(Supression+20)*100/90
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"On 17 January, I started with 39 tanks. After 38 days of aerial attacks, I had 32, but in less than 20 minutes with the M1A1,1 had zero." an Iraqi
battalion commander, after being captured by the 2nd Armored Cav Regiment, speeking to Col Don Holder.
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July 19th, 2005, 09:57 AM
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Re: The Merkava 4 MBT
I FOUND IT: THE SITE WHICH WAS USED BY DON AND ANDY TO DO THE GAME!!! :
http://members.tripod.com/collinsj/protect.htm
everything ids here for MBT stats
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"On 17 January, I started with 39 tanks. After 38 days of aerial attacks, I had 32, but in less than 20 minutes with the M1A1,1 had zero." an Iraqi
battalion commander, after being captured by the 2nd Armored Cav Regiment, speeking to Col Don Holder.
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September 5th, 2005, 01:02 AM
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Re: The Merkava 4 MBT
You may find this difficult to beleive but today was the first time I have ever seen that website. Someone else on the team in the past may have used some of this info.... IDK. But I didn't.
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July 19th, 2005, 09:58 AM
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Re: The Merkava 4 MBT
Loktarr, believe you me, if IMI has designed this Merkava version hoping it will be fielded by Tsahal, they have made a very thick door indeed. Besides, the door is quite narrow, and stacked between two huge armored baskets which are definitely added on top of the armor, so if a projectile gets a grazing hit on the edge of the door it is bound to trip into the REAL armour and bounce into the basket, hurting no one (except for the mechanics, of course).
Look at pitures of the Namera APC, you will see how narrow is this rear "shell trap". Apparently only one man can come on/off at a time, even on the APC version.
On another matter, the Abrams as a pretty good shell trap under the gunbarrel too. It IS very small but opens right onto the turret ring. I don't know how much armor there is suposed to be at this point, where the barrel has to move into for positive angles.
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