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Old July 22nd, 2005, 04:44 PM
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Um, I thought organic armors only regenerated other organic armors, since they're the only armor which has the regeneration ability...
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For personal use, yes. I have done such a thing myself once. Nothing wrong with it.

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Um, I thought organic armors only regenerated other organic armors, since they're the only armor which has the regeneration ability...
Nope. Armor regen regenerates all armor on the ship. In Adamant, Organic races with Inherent Regeneration (or something) get an Auxiliary Control (IIRC) component with Armor Regeneration ability, but which does not have the Armor ability itself.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 08:57 AM
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The Crystalline Armour lacks any regeneration ability, so it won't get regenerated: you must have some sort of regeneration to benefit from the OA ability; whether a component is an armour or not is irrelevant here.

Devnull does have Biocrystal armour though, which acts as the CA, with built-in regeneration, but it's not exactly the same thing (and it is a mod, of course).
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Newbie question, is armor really all that important in the game? From my understanding in most multiplayer games, people use heavy weapon mounts and 150kt of resistance doesn't sound like much. I would think that the space would be better used for extra shields.
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Armour is paramount: Stealth and Scattering Armour give you a huge bonus to defence, and those are definitively worth it.

Now as for Armour vs Shields... I'd rather not engage in that debate. Let's just say shields are more expensive, Shield Depleters do a lot of damage against them (and are otherwise worthless), but shields give more hitpoints per kt. There are other differences, but I would need to write a paper on the matter, so I won't do it right now.
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... [organic] Armor regen regenerates all armor on the ship. ...
No offense, but I've never noticed this happening. Can anyone confirm this?
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No offense, but I've never noticed this happening. Can anyone confirm this?
I answered to that a few posts ago, and can confirm it isn't the case in stock. Of course, a mod doing that can easily be created.
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Default Re: What Traits / Tactics are considered cheap/che

It is wrong. The armor ability is 100% irrelevant for hit point regeneration. All components with the regeneration ability will be regenerated, but no component will ever be regenerated just because it has the armor ability.
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