To all who are playing the P&Nv2 HomeComing Scenario

Suicide Junkie · #1 September 24th, 2001, 07:34 PM

As long as you don't save and reload during the first 30 turns, you will get Messages every year, plus one final warning just before doomsday.

If you have reloaded, just go into the scenarios folder, and read the homecoming scenario file.
The Last few Messages are about the imminent destruction of your star, and will include the date (in the line indicating when SE4 shows the message)

Check out the scores, and the borders window for intel on the Ukra-Tal.

With all that expanding, I sure hope you haven't spread too thin (when the star blows, you lose all those 150% planets!)

Also, I'm curious:
Have you altered the Dragon Class designs any, and in what way?

[This message has been edited by suicide_junkie (edited 24 September 2001).]

Puke · #2 September 24th, 2001, 09:47 PM

i have tried starting a few times, but about 5 turns in i tend to decide that im not happy with the direction i chose and i want to try again. next time will probably be the charm.

I have been meaning to try to see if it would be possible to reinvest the current facilites in the home system to mainly focus on research and resource storage, so that a high level of stellar manip could be obtained and one of those cheesy two-turn retrofitted ringworlds could be built. If its possible, ill have to name it Molly.

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"...the green, sticky spawn of the stars"
(with apologies to H.P.L.)

Suicide Junkie · #3 September 24th, 2001, 11:02 PM

The two-turn ringworld will still cost you 2&1/2 million of each resource. I don't think that you can produce that much, AND research four or five SM levels all in 30 turns.

One thing: If you don't save and reload, then things become much more interesting, since you have to live with unforseen consequences, and make the best out of what you've been dealt.

I am not very happy with the direction I chose to move in; 40% value is an excellent planet compared to what I've got!
But, I live with it, and try to find cheaper methods of defense. The three Dragons I can support are dedicated to doing capture missions, just for scrap minerals

Puke · #4 September 24th, 2001, 11:52 PM

i bet the SM tech could be traded for. if the AI is cruising around in baseships, odds are they have some SM tech. re-evaluating the situation, there is no possible way to achive that goal with the current research output.

for clarification, my geographic direction is fairly fixed. i have decided to go for the Saiph system and pick up some sensors ASAP, so that I can minimize the need for defense fleets. I am planning on making up for any lost happyness with troops, and then expanding one planet at a time to some of the better oxygen planets. in the spirit of the game, i have decided AGAINST exploring any more systems that might have better planets. when i say change direction, i am refering more to re-evaluations of the decisions i made regarding scrapping, retorfitting, or major shifts in research priorities.

i realize this still makes me no better than a rouge-like-game savegame exploiter, but at least i have some principals.

as a side note, i have a good idea why your sun is exploding. over half the other races are LUCKY! of course you are getting the bad events!

as an unrelated note, this would really suck if you had to play it against the Rage: "Matching speed Captain, sensors detect no shield grid present on the colony ship. Cutting charges ready, stand by Marines. Wait, she's coming about.. Holy SHI+, brace for impa---" *SMASH* "Damage control teams report hull breaches on decks 3-12, engines reduced to half capacity! We've been rammed hard, Sir!"

and if i can cram one more thing into this already overtaxed post, It would be a pretty sweet challenge to see who can submit a save game that fills the victory conditions in the shortest number of turns.

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"...the green, sticky spawn of the stars"
(with apologies to H.P.L.)

Phoenix-D · #5 September 25th, 2001, 01:43 AM

"as a side note, i have a good idea why your sun is exploding. over half the other races are LUCKY! of course you are getting the bad events!"

In other words.. save and reload until he got the event he wanted? Eeeach.

Phoenix-D

Puke · #6 September 25th, 2001, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
In other words.. save and reload until he got the event he wanted? Eeeach.

Phoenix-D

my GOD, i never said anything of the kind! how did you come up with that through my perfectly innoculous statement? i simply ment that if an event is going to happen on a turn, odds are its not going to happen to the races with the LUCKY trait, so its probably going to filter on down to the unlucky ones. and when you count the number of lucky races in the game, you see how drastically increased your chance for bad events would be. it was just an idle observation. jeeze, who said anything about saving and reloading?

Phoenix-D · #7 September 25th, 2001, 02:03 AM

Think about it. The event will ALWAYS happen, on the same turn, every time you play the scenerio. Which means (barring somehow getting the "unstable star" ability to work) that he had to set things up, and keep advancing the clock (with everyone set to human control and not doing anything) until he got the event he wanted. Not quite save/reload/repeat, but similar..

Phoenix-D