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				Re: To all who are playing the P&Nv2 HomeComing Scenario
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		i bet the SM tech could be traded for.  if the AI is cruising around in baseships, odds are they have some SM tech.  re-evaluating the situation, there is no possible way to achive that goal with the current research output. 
 
for clarification, my geographic direction is fairly fixed.  i have decided to go for the Saiph system and pick up some sensors ASAP, so that I can minimize the need for defense fleets.  I am planning on making up for any lost happyness with troops, and then expanding one planet at a time to some of the better oxygen planets.  in the spirit of the game, i have decided AGAINST exploring any more systems that might have better planets.  when i say change direction, i am refering more to re-evaluations of the decisions i made regarding scrapping, retorfitting, or major shifts in research priorities. 
 
i realize this still makes me no better than a rouge-like-game savegame exploiter, but at least i have some principals. 
 
as a side note, i have a good idea why your sun is exploding.  over half the other races are LUCKY! of course you are getting the bad events! 
 
as an unrelated note, this would really suck if you had to play it against the Rage:  "Matching speed Captain, sensors detect no shield grid present on the colony ship.  Cutting charges ready, stand by Marines.  Wait, she's coming about.. Holy SHI+, brace for impa---" *SMASH* "Damage control teams report hull breaches on decks 3-12, engines reduced to half capacity! We've been rammed hard, Sir!" 
 
and if i can cram one more thing into this already overtaxed post, It would be a pretty sweet challenge to see who can submit a save game that fills the victory conditions in the shortest number of turns. 
 
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		"as a side note, i have a good idea why your sun is exploding. over half the other races are LUCKY! of course you are getting the bad events!" 
 
In other words.. save and reload until he got the event he wanted? Eeeach. 
 
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		 quote: Originally posted by Phoenix-D: 
In other words.. save and reload until he got the event he wanted? Eeeach. 
 
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my GOD, i never said anything of the kind!  how did you come up with that through my perfectly innoculous statement?  i simply ment that if an event is going to happen on a turn, odds are its not going to happen to the races with the LUCKY trait, so its probably going to filter on down to the unlucky ones.  and when you count the number of lucky races in the game, you see how drastically increased your chance for bad events would be.  it was just an idle observation.  jeeze, who said anything about saving and reloading?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Think about it. The event will ALWAYS happen, on the same turn, every time you play the scenerio. Which means (barring somehow getting the "unstable star" ability to work) that he had to set things up, and keep advancing the clock (with everyone set to human control and not doing anything) until he got the event he wanted. Not quite save/reload/repeat, but similar.. 
 
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		  quote: Think about it. The event will ALWAYS happen, on the same turn, every time you play the scenerio. Which means (barring somehow getting the "unstable star" ability to work) that he had to set things up, and keep advancing the clock (with everyone set to human control and not doing anything) until he got the event he wanted. Not quite save/reload/repeat, but similar..
  Hey, woah there.  You are assuming a bit much.  If you want to know, this is what happened:
 
- I decide to play a game as a neutral empire. 
- I build up my empire with the "neutral" restriction in mind:  Ship capture tech first, then monoliths and nature shrines.  Organic + Crystalline level 1 for the crossover tech. 
- Many battles at warppoints and planets, while I build up planet creation tech and look into Atmosphere converters. 
- Message: Plasma instability. 
- I think "Crud. There goes my game" 
- The next day, I think "Hey, this would be a cool scenario!" 
- I write up my vision of the empire in the "minister meeting" for the first turn, and package it all into a scenario. 
- I upload it, you guys download it, and play!
 
I saved the scenario  after the event happened naturally.
 
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