War.... (Historical: 9/11 discussion thread)

[AJC]

Man some of these Posts have really irked me and now I am going to RANT A bit....

NO country deserves what happened tuesday -just because of foreign policies! Especially to have weapons of mass destruction used on them. The explosive power of that 767 jet was pretty close to 1 kiloton when loaded with fuel and ramming a buildng at around 400 knots. With the weight and speed of that plane it was approx 123 g's of force hitting that building.

Europeans certainly shouldnt be calling the kettle black- look at your own history - Europe has a bloody and dark history abroad for several centuries and it continues today. I am sick of the America is the big bad guy rhetoric. Bombing the US just because its government wont let the Israels be destroyed and we support our allies upon request makes the US evil ?! - what a load of crap. You dont see the USA occupying or invading countries at random. We defend our allies (kuwait) and strike back at those who blow up our people and embassies (african embassies).


I would agree with anyone who said that what the Israel's tactics against the palistinians is totally wrong and an obvious failure. Its easy to be the oppressor when you have the power, But Its doesnt justify killing women children and men who are completely innocent. The US gov policies are no worse than any other western govenment.

Maybe some people dont get it - this attack isnt an just an attack on the US, its an attack on humanity, and the world. Osma Bin ladin's cronies tried to ram the Eiffle tower 2 -3 years ago and the French foiled the plot and stopped the 747 from leaving the airport. SO This was not his first try.
Just remember - now that its been done- Someone else will try again - and your country maybe next.

As for YANK bashing by the British, I am british living in the US for 34 years. You must realise Church Hill practically beg the US to get into WWII because the british were hanging on by their finger nails and didnt have the Industrial might to fight alone. the US government let Pearl Harbor happen because the citizens of the US didnt want anything to do with a european war and they had to be made angry to get involved.
Everyone in this country knows that America didnt win the war on its own, Russia and other western powers were essential to victory.
I also want you to remember The USA rebuilt Europe after it was reduced to rubble and the US and never got repaid. That was american citizens tax dollars given freely and without strings.

For those who think I am a raging american citizen - your damn right we have alot to be angry for this Last few days and the longer the body count gets the more pissed off this country is going to get, its going to be scarey, its already getting that way.

4,700+ people are missing and the pile of rubble is still 6+ stories high, with 10 city blocks wiped out.
The NYC mayor has requested 11,000 more body bags on top of the 30,000 already used- get the picture? These are not terrorism casualties - they are numbers that are seen on major battle fields in major wars.

Its just been announced that they are considering calling up the reserves... maybe its going to sink in with the rest of the world now, A war was started on tuesday.

God help the bastards who are involved and the countries that harbor them. They will unfortunately pay in a big way.

What a sad time.


[This message has been edited by AJC (edited 14 September 2001).]

[This message has been edited by AJC (edited 14 September 2001).]

[Phoenix-D]

"and i believe that AIRBUS is suppose to put boing and lockheed to shame as far as airliners go. sure, our military planes are lightyears ahead, but I think that airbus wins on the commercial market.

I also have to give props to our friends in England, who did lend a big hand cleaning up some of our nastier oil spills in the past, and whom continue to support our childlike pestering of Iraq."

Keep in mind when that was written. actually, given the support that's come in, playing that over..and over.. like seems to happening is downright disrespectful.

Phoenix-D

[disabled]

This is what I got say.

I will live free or I will die fighting for it. No in between.

You people who think we are stupid, arrogant, and pathetic, you know what, I take that as a compliment. Because we could have sat back, and let all those petty dictators run you over.

How many of you would be alive now if Hitler succeeded? How many would know freedom if Stalin raged unchecked? How many americans would be free if the South had won? Where would Israel be without America? Would the Balkans be at peace today? What would China and the Pacific look like with the Japanese Empire today? Would Freedom be known if America didn't rebel so long ago?

I'll tell you... You owe more than you think to this country and the ideals we are founded upon.

I say.... REMEMBER THE TWIN TOWERS!

EDIT - I send thanks to all the people and governments that have looked past thier petty differences and united with the American Republic.

[ June 13, 2003, 07:07: Message edited by: General Talashar ]

[Puke]

i was hunting about for a se4 file that used to be available that i just CANT FIND anymore, and i came across something that might be of significane to this thread. I wont disrespect the author by pasting it here, but I will let you follow the link.
http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/NewAgeShipyards/index.html

I trust that everyone will have the respect not to nitpick and belabor the points raised there, and that any differences of oppinion can be kept to ones self. I for one, agree with the sentiment raised there.

[disabled]

I will not disagree.

War is sad, but sadly unavoidable at times.

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[Kimball]

Here is an interesting tid-bit...the United States National Anthem was played during the changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace today...a first.

[Puke]

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Originally posted by Kimball:
Here is an interesting tid-bit...the United States National Anthem was played during the changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace today...a first.

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isnt it the same tune as "god save the queen?"