War.... (Historical: 9/11 discussion thread)

Kimball · #1 September 14th, 2001, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Puke:
isnt it the same tune as "god save the queen?"

I thought that was God Bless America. However as I speak 6:00 am CDT, they are singing our National Anthem in England at St. Paul's Cathedral (I think, it is the same place where Diana's funeral was). So, you may be right, Puke, but watch CSPAN2 later today.

Kimball · #2 September 15th, 2001, 01:01 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Puke:
isnt it the same tune as "god save the queen?"

The Americanized tune is "My Country tis of Thee" So, they really were playing the National Anthem...I knew I wasn't nuts

Mephisto · #3 September 14th, 2001, 02:07 PM

Sorry, dogscoff, I didn't know that you already where quoting/replaying to me otherwise I would not have deleted my mail.
Right after my post I saw a comment that this comment was aired 25 years ago and as I didn't wanted to piss people off I did delete my post.

tesco samoa · #4 September 14th, 2001, 02:10 PM

HEy dogscoff rememeber that the speach was written in 1973 by Gordon Sinclair ( Canadian ).

I think that is is not the time to be taking the piss at who built what but take the post on how it was. Rich04 posted this speach so others could seek comfort in it's words.
Nothing more nothing less.

Lets leave it at that.

P.S. I am not pissed off, but felt compelled to write this.

Take care dogscoff.

Tesco

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tesco samoa · #5 September 14th, 2001, 02:18 PM

What will happen to Echelon now? Intelligence based solely on Technology is not enough. I can see encryption being Banned ( unless their is a back door )

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Exculcator · #6 September 14th, 2001, 02:19 PM

Here's to remind that we really DO sympathise.

http://coldleaf.org/thankyou.htm

tesco samoa · #7 September 14th, 2001, 02:35 PM

"Twice in my lifetime the long arm of destiny has reached across the oceans and involved the entire life and manhood of the United States in a deadly struggle.

There was no use in saying "We don't want it; we won�t have it; our forebears left Europe to avoid these quarrels; we have founded a new world which has no contact with the old. "There was no use in that. The long arm reaches out remorselessly, and every one's existence, environment, and outlook undergo a swift and irresistible change. What is the explanation, Mr. President, of these strange facts, and what are the deep laws to which they respond? I will offer you one explanation - there are others, but one will suffice.

The price of greatness is responsibility. If the people of the United States had continued in a mediocre station, struggling with the wilderness, absorbed in their own affairs, and a factor of no consequence in the movement of the world, they might have remained forgotten and undisturbed beyond their protecting oceans: but one cannot rise to be in many ways the leading community in the civilised world without being involved in its problems, without being convulsed by its agonies and inspired by its causes.

If this has been proved in the past, as it has been, it will become indisputable in the future. The people of the United States cannot escape world responsibility. Although we live in a period so tumultuous that little can be predicted, we may be quite sure that this process will be intensified with every forward step the United States make in wealth and in power. Not only are the responsibilities of this great Republic growing, but the world over which they range is itself contracting in relation to our powers of locomotion at a positively alarming rate.

We have learned to fly. What prodigious changes are involved in that new accomplishment! Man has parted company with his trusty friend the horse and has sailed into the azure with the eagles, eagles being represented by the infernal (loud laughter) - I mean internal -combustion engine. Where, then, are those broad oceans, those vast staring deserts? They are shrinking beneath our very eyes. Even elderly Parliamentarians like myself are forced to acquire a high degree of mobility.

But to the youth of America, as to the youth of all the Britains, I say "You cannot stop." There is no halting-place at this point. We have now reached a stage in the journey where there can be no pause. We must go on. It must be world anarchy or world order."

Winston Churchill.

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