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August 9th, 2005, 11:03 AM
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Re: Mine clearing not working in PBEM games:(
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There DOES seem to be a problem but it's also seems to be a narrow series of events that trigger it. I saw it last night in a test save but Andy says his tests work just fine. It *IS* releated to saving the game though. Just starting it up and playing through won't trigger the problem and neither will starting up a save game then moving the engineers to new hexes to clear mines. If you do they will start clearing again.
We are looking at this now from a number of different angles
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I tested last night as I said I would.
The mine clearing bug occurs if...
The game is opened and a saved game is started where mine clearing units are already in hexes adjacent to the mines.
I'm attaching several saves just because I said I would and you asked but obviously your on top of it.
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August 9th, 2005, 12:19 PM
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Re: Mine clearing not working in PBEM games:(
What I discovered in my testing today was the engineers would start clearing again after a one turn pause. I did have one test where the engineers just sat their looking at the mines for more than one turns but in that test they were clearing their own mines and that may be a factor to consider.
However, this goes a long way to explain whey there are conflicting reports about the bug. Anyone who sits down and plays a game right through will never see this. Anyone who plays PBEM or only has a short amount to time to play in any given day and makes a lot of saves will see this all the time. Anyone who is somewhere in the middle and may play a number of turns one day then have to save every turn for a couple of days for one reason or the other will see it seemingly inconsistently. Your tying it to the save game was the piece of the puzzle we needed. Thank you for that clue. It helped a lot. This is why we need as much info as possible when we get a bug report.
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August 9th, 2005, 02:19 PM
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Re: Mine clearing not working in PBEM games:(
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DRG said:
What I discovered in my testing today was the engineers would start clearing again after a one turn pause. I did have one test where the engineers just sat their looking at the mines for more than one turns but in that test they were clearing their own mines and that may be a factor to consider.
However, this goes a long way to explain whey there are conflicting reports about the bug. Anyone who sits down and plays a game right through will never see this. Anyone who plays PBEM or only has a short amount to time to play in any given day and makes a lot of saves will see this all the time. Anyone who is somewhere in the middle and may play a number of turns one day then have to save every turn for a couple of days for one reason or the other will see it seemingly inconsistently. Your tying it to the save game was the piece of the puzzle we needed. Thank you for that clue. It helped a lot. This is why we need as much info as possible when we get a bug report.
Don
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Looks like we found what was wrong in the save game process. (Being able to debug with real breakpoints beats the old DOS print to text file debug method no end !  )
Testing the fix out now.
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August 9th, 2005, 02:23 PM
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Re: Mine clearing not working in PBEM games:(
Confirmed fixed
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August 9th, 2005, 03:41 PM
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Re: Mine clearing not working in PBEM games:(
Yeeeeeehaw! How many thousands of gripe reports did I help kill off? [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif[/img] Happy to help.
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August 10th, 2005, 12:46 AM
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Re: Mine clearing not working in PBEM games:(
Awesome, very quick response and fix. I had been saving before each end turn and usually short sessions. Thanks 
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August 9th, 2005, 12:27 PM
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Re: Mine clearing not working in PBEM games:(
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scJazz said:
The mine clearing bug occurs if...
The game is opened and a saved game is started where mine clearing units are already in hexes adjacent to the mines.
I'm attaching several saves just because I said I would and you asked but obviously your on top of it.
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I just tested your " Mine test T4 start " and it duplicated what I saw today. They sat there and did nothing for the turn after I re-started the game but started clearing again the turn after that.
Is that what you saw as well?
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August 9th, 2005, 01:48 PM
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Re: Mine clearing not working in PBEM games:(
No what I saw was from the moment I opened a saved game (open app, open save, commence play) the Engineers just sat there looking stupid for as many turns as I wished to sit through UNTIL I moved them away from mines and back again. At one point I opened Save 2 and pressed End Turn repeatedly with no mine clears for 5 or 6 turns.
Mine clearing worked fine as long there was no "End Game" & "Open Save".
Mine clearing worked fine after saving game as long as game progressed after save (End Game not clicked, no return to Desktop, etc).
BTW the bug exists in DOS SPWW2 as well.
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