War.... (Historical: 9/11 discussion thread)

[Taqwus]

Ah, foobar -- it's now widely reported that Masood's family has confirmed his death resulting from injuries caused at a press conference a week (?) or so ago -- two people with a bomb in their camera got in by posing as journalists.

FYI, Masood was, perhaps, the most important leader in unifying the Afghan anti-Taliban opposition forces, which had been highly fragmented in the interval between the withdrawal of the Soviet Union and the sudden appearance of the Taliban movement. His coalition only controls an estimated 5% of the country, but if the US were to get off the fence and actively support an anti-Taliban faction (rather than mere verbal criticism and lack of diplomatic recognition, while watching them take over), or go further and attempt to install its own government, Masood would have been a logical choice for a major participant.

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[Baron Munchausen]

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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Damn. UA is going to lay off 12000 people.

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Yep, the consequences of this attack are going to be very real. People are now afraid to travel and will only do so when necessary, at least for a while. The whole airline industry is facing collapse. Bush has put on a decent 'brave face' for these first few days, but he's really going to have his leadership abilities tested keeping things together.

What worries me is this is also a "propoganda coup" for the terrorists. They will now be 10 times more popular among the radicalized portion of the Islamic populations and be able to attract more recruits and money. I hope the non-radical governments will not be intimidated and will cooperate to stop them.

[CW]

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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Damn. UA is going to lay off 12000 people.

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And Ansett Australia Airways here in Aust just went over the top, that's 16000 jobs gone. One year ago there were 4 big airlines flying domestic routes here, one year later 2 were gone... And that marks the third large corporation going broke this year I think, after One Tel and HIH. Time to talk about voting out the current government!

[Baron Munchausen]

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BRUSSELS, Belgium (CNN) -- Two men believed to have been planning an attack on American interests in Europe have been charged in Belgium with possession of weapons of war.

Prosecutors said on Saturday that the two men charged face four separate counts, but they would not say what the other charges were.

The men, who were arrested on Thursday, were members of a radical Muslim group, said Fabienne Laduron, spokeswoman for Brussels prosecutor's office.

She said they were not ruling out a connection with Osama bin Laden.

The men were taken into custody in co-ordination with Netherlands authorities, who arrested four others in Rotterdam on Friday.

Police were analysing documentation that indicated the men were planning on attacking American interests in Europe.

France is sending two magistrates who specialise in terror cases to Brussels on Monday to consult on the case.

A French radio station, Europe 1, reported that the American embassy in Paris was a target. Laduron could not confirm that report.

One of the men arrested in Brussels was Tunisian, and the other was a Belgian national of North African descent.

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This is getting out of hand. If even naturalized citizens of Western nations are turning into agents of the terrorists we're in big trouble.

[This message has been edited by Baron Munchausen (edited 15 September 2001).]

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For those of you who jumped off topic and argued about the southern rebellion back in the 1860's, The US Consitution is a binding contracts between the states. Attempting to leave is a breach of the contract and it is stated under the powers of the Federal Constitution that it can 'supress revolts'

In addition, it is the right of the people, not the states, to overthrow illegal, immoral, and severaly corrupt governments and replace it with a new one. However, the South had no base for this argument as they were the ones trying to prevent thier immoral and illegal state governments intact.

That is why the 14th amendment Federalized the Bill of Rights, because the states kept abusing the Bill of Rights.

[ June 13, 2003, 07:09: Message edited by: General Talashar ]

[tesco samoa]

Hey every one .

I just wanted to let everyone know that I went to a wedding today it it was nice seeing an event that shaped the world for the better.

I feel that I will get a good sleep tonight for the first time in a while.

Even the food was good.

I hope the rest of you have a good night or day and I hope this post finds you all in better spirits and good health.

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What ever those people thought they could do by striking at America's heart has horribly backfired. They've united this country in a way that only war can and now... well... now they have sealed thier fate

[ June 13, 2003, 07:09: Message edited by: General Talashar ]