Gas Prices

LordFulgrymm · #1 August 13th, 2005, 08:01 AM

Thought this might be of interest:

http://lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

El_Phil · #2 August 13th, 2005, 08:20 AM

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LordFulgrymm said:
Thought this might be of interest:

http://lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

**Bangs head into wall repeatedly**

Yes oil producion will peak, no not in the forseable future, certainly not within 5 years.

No the worlds banks will not fall over if oil gets pricier.

The only reason oil sand/shale are uneconomic is because they cost more than $40/barrel to get out. But not much more.

That list of mergers is A. Inaccurate B. Misleading C. Pointless

The platinum article carefully misses out the massive and mysterious reserves in Russia, where platinum mining/production/reserves are still considered a state secret. And the entire Westveldt complex which is barely even scratched. Plus those liquid hydrogen loss figures are for piss poor insulated vessels, any cryogenic engineer worth his salt could do better than that.

Yes the black stuff wont last forever, however it wont happen soon. I think fusion will take care of it if I'm honest. They've got break even at the small scale so it's doable. What's needed is the impetus and all out effort, which is lacking at the moment.

Still if you want to live your life in gloom and only see the dark in everything go and read those books, then perhaps slash your wrist to cheer yourself up. But remember: Down not across.

FJ_MD · #3 August 13th, 2005, 09:10 AM

Hey! Why don't you buy European cars?

With your price per gallon and the European car KM per liter (25 KM with diesel) you will surely save lot of money.

Now that I think about it, Ford sell also here in Europe... if I was in you I surely go for the Ford Focus model (if you prefer american name)or Fiat Stilo or Volkswagen Golf V... why go for the big ugly pick up?

LordFulgrymm · #4 August 13th, 2005, 09:17 AM

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LordFulgrymm said:
Thought this might be of interest:

http://lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

A friend from India sent me this a while back. A lot of it just made me laugh; particularly numbers 4 and 5 in the "what can I do to prepare" section at the end. Classic!

Edit: I did have a link to a more balanced article on the same subject, but I can't seem to find it at the mo...doh!

Atrocities · #5 August 14th, 2005, 12:20 AM

I want a Ford Expidition Hybrid made by Honda!

Thanks for broading our perspective on the topic El Phil.

Sometimes I forget that there is always more information and truth out side the conventional box of thinking that I give credit for.

Leslie · #6 August 14th, 2005, 10:47 PM

What should be mentioned, is gas prices is not just about the cost of getting around in your car.

When they talk about oil, they mean everything made with it.

I don't have a car, but I just moved from a place that used gas heat. Normally gas heat ISN'T more expensive, but that is now not really such an easy remark to make. I have electric heat here now, but my rent is inclusive (ie not my problem).

But oil is used for paint to clothing to pens to lubricants.
It impacts the price of your groceries, because it also runs farm equipment.

If they don't soon get a grip on the oil costs soon, it is eventually going to cause some trouble in more areas than just the cost to run your car.

Atrocities · #7 August 15th, 2005, 06:05 AM

A world wide oil shortage will lead to starvation and other comodities break downs. This is something that also is not in dispute.

El_Phil · #8 August 15th, 2005, 07:18 AM

Or perhaps as the price goes up oil will stop being wasted. well wasted isn't exactly right, but currently oil/plastics are dirt cheap so it's the first choice material, even if its not the best.

There was a story about DVD-R price rises, optical-grade polycarbonate the main component, is now $3.50/kg. Three and a half bucks for a very high grade plastic. That's massively cheap. A DVDs only, what a couple of dozen grammes? So how much of the cost of a DVD-R is actually the plastic? **ck all, yet the price rises 10% when the material goes up a few cents. So AT if you want a bunch of money grabbing fat cats.....

Leslie · #9 August 15th, 2005, 09:03 AM

"There was a story about DVD-R price rises"

Rising prices?

Heck, blank dvds seem to be so cheap now, I actually find needing an actual blank cd occasionally to be a nuisance, as a dvd holds more.

I have, when it is possible, considered compiling cds as images on dvds, just so I can have more for less.

Kamog · #10 August 17th, 2005, 03:54 PM

Yesterday when I filled up my car, the price of gas was $1.095 per liter, the highest I have ever paid. If gas price keeps going up, I'll consider buying a hybrid vehicle. But when I was in the UK a couple of weeks ago, the price of gas was more than twice as expensive there.