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Old September 3rd, 2005, 06:23 PM

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You are on! I am just a newbie to this sort of thing but I am told I have a natural nack for it. Just to make it interesting, lets make a small but painful wager on the outcome.

This challenge goes to everyone else too. You can choose your race first if I can choose the map and who goes first. And if you feel up to it, you can take a handicap or two to make it more interesting.
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Old September 4th, 2005, 02:41 PM
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You know Andre I have already beaten you

Once it ships you can challange me to a rematch
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Hi there,

I am not as experienced as you are people... but I will play against anyone of you who thinks himself as a tough player... LOL

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p.s everything set to random, mirrored games and in case of a tie, the winner is the one with the best performance (less rounds to win) in the winning game.
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Old September 7th, 2005, 03:32 PM

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I like the idea of mirrored games. You mean switching sides on the following game, right? You really should be able to beat someone playing against the race you just used to beat them if you're truly a better player.

And letting performance dictate the break of a tie is a nice touch. Good call!
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I am only really good as Undead. I am sure to be trounced as anything else.
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I like the idea of mirrored games. You mean switching sides on the following game, right? You really should be able to beat someone playing against the race you just used to beat them if you're truly a better player.

And letting performance dictate the break of a tie is a nice touch. Good call!
Andre this is a standard way to play a pbem game.
You play the games from both perspectives and then you compare the level of victories.
This way nobody may claim that the other one had any "race" or "map" advantage!!! LOL

Although there is a small detail... who will play first the the "unfavorable" game??? This matter because if you win this game you will show the way to your opponent what tactic to use in order to win you in the same map...
But again... this is only a game, or not??

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Hey! There shouldn't *be* an "unfavorable" side. =)

If there is, it means you beta testers didn't do a good enough job finding balance issues!




(... or I didn't listen when you pointed them out. =)

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Hiro... you know what I mean!!!

In a "mountain & dense forest" map the elves would have a small advantage due to their path-finding skill!!
in the other hand the tank will have problems to move off-road.

These small details make this game a very fine game!

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Hey! There shouldn't *be* an "unfavorable" side. =)

If there is, it means you beta testers didn't do a good enough job finding balance issues!

(... or I didn't listen when you pointed them out. =)

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Hey Hiro,

That was like the most silly statements I have heard in a while. I have yet to see a game that has different races, that the race had different units from each other and that the map was not tailored to a specific match up been ever balanced. It is just not possible. And to blame the beta tester or state that you did not listen was just plain [CENSORED]!!!

That aside, LOL has a very awesome game due to the fact that the races are not balanced and the map does not help with the balance. LOL is more true to life than most other games because of this unbalance factor. When has the USA ever battle an opponent that was equal in power or ability?!? Look in history and you will see that the great historical battles were always slanted one way or another. However, the most notable of all the historical battles were that of a weaker force overcoming a more powerful force by using whatever factor it needed to do so. My most memorable and enjoyable games were when I had the less effective race and used the map to help minimize my weakness. When the game is so balance it comes down to the fact that the one that makes the first move or first mistake determine the game outcome. With LOL the swaying of the balance keeps the outcome hard to see. This makes the game re-playable over and over again.

Regarding Undead
You really think Undead is the best race? I realy like the fact that during your offesive you can actually increase your army size! The abilities of the Undead units are very fun and interesting to explore. However, I find that the Human are better than the Undead due to the fact that they do not smell. In addition, the Human has a more rounded selection of units. It has an effective expansion unit, offense unit, and a defense unit. Then you throw in the top unit that just mess up the offense of the opponent. On top of these factors you throw on the fact that the paladin icon is just darn cute. Regardless I will play you a match against your beloved Undead against a random race on a random map. Unless you want to let me choose my race and the map. I do not suggest you do this do to the fact that I am a "cheater" and/or "abuser".

Regarding mirror game play.
That is a great idea!! However, it does make a huge difference which play play which race first in the game. I have played a few times with my buddy and with each game we play he learns more of my tactics and uses it against me with even more effectiveness. But your idea of the mirror match game seems to be the most simple and fair way to determine who is better. Until someone suggest a better method I agree with you.

Regarding my race of choice.
My current favorite race is dwarves. They suck at expansion. Weak on offense. And the defense is hard to set up. But if you play it the right way, all the weakness comes together and become a strength!!! Purchase a copy of LOL and when it goes on-line, anyone that wants to see this in action can challenge me to a match.
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And next time my network connection won't drop out from underneath me. Can't wait to be "beaten" again
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