Does the tariff function work?

[Daeromont]

If I ask for a Protectorate Treaty as a WANT in a trade with another Empire, does that mean I am asking for them to be subject themselves to me or vice versa?

Also, if I just propose the same treaty, is it the same as the aforementioned effect?

[chewy027]

i beleive the stronger empire becomes the protector of the other regardless of who proposes the treaty. but if i'm wrong i'm sure someone will set me straight

[Suicide Junkie]

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i beleive the stronger empire becomes the protector of the other

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You might think so, but no.

Offering a subjugation, means you subjugate them.
To beg for your life, you must demand that they offer you the subjugation.

[Puke]

so.. if you wanted to trade, say, a system map in exchange for someone's subjugation, you would not offer a trade where you give the map, and recieve the treaty? instead you would give both? or you would give a gift of both rather than a trade?

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"...the green, sticky spawn of the stars"
(with apologies to H.P.L.)

[Suicide Junkie]

You cannot make a "something for nothing" trade, so yes, it would have to be a gift or tribute.

I highly reccommend starting a high-tech, small galaxy game with two players, just to test things like this.

[Puke]

actually i have a one system map for just that purpose. and after a quick test, Daeromont had the right idea.

if you want to subjugate another race, you must put the subjugation treaty in 1) a treaty proposal, or 2) the want column of a trade.

if you put it in the GIVE column of a trade, or in a gift, you will be offering your self to them for subjugation. score has no bearing on who gets what position.

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"...the green, sticky spawn of the stars"
(with apologies to H.P.L.)

[Daeromont]

Thanks for your advice, gents. I've one further question, "What are the consequences, if any, to becoming a Protectorate or Subjugated race?" Since a person can choose to break these treaties at any time, it seems as though it would be a good alternative to total annihilation, a hope of rising from the ashes like the Pheonix.