|
|
|
 |
|

September 16th, 2005, 10:17 PM
|
 |
Major
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Searching for a holy grail.
Posts: 1,001
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
Dell has been cutting it's tech support viciously for the last few years. You want cheap? Head to India. There you get computer science graduates working for tuppence ha-penny (thats a couple of cents) an hour and pleased for the wages.
You think data doesn't leak out of US phone centres? It does, but that isn't news. Bear in mind that news isn't what happens, it's what is repoted. There's a massive difference.
Slynky if you pay peanuts, you will get monkeys. Looking at the costs involved you can't pay western workers to do phone tech support. Unless you charge premium rates for tech support numbers, which you can't as you'll be torn apart in the media. What do you expect? You're buying a cheap system, so you get bad tech support.
Besides 99% of problems can be solved with a flow sheet, for those who's problems can't.... Well peanuts and monkeys. You haven't paid for decent tech support, why should you get it?
__________________
He who disagrees with me in private, call him a fool. He who disagrees with me in public, call him an ambulance.
|

September 17th, 2005, 12:16 AM
|
 |
Shrapnel Fanatic
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 15,630
Thanks: 0
Thanked 30 Times in 18 Posts
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
I don't mind people in India working and earning money, I do mind companies that are not up front about who is giving you tech support and that your call isn't going to a tech support person in the US, but in INDIA.
Seems professional and are professional are two very differant things. They can be polite on the phone, but in reality, they are most likely going to send me a part laced with anthrax and or they intend to tell their Arab buddies where I live so they can come cut my head off. (I guess I should not have mentioned the fact that I burned the Quron in protest to the Americans being murdered in its name.)
My bad. And for his part, he didn't even get mad. That takes talent and a certain degree of tolerance. Good for him. (I will be sleeping lightly from now on.)
__________________
Creator of the Star Trek Mod - AST Mod - 78 Ship Sets - Conquest Mod - Atrocities Star Wars Mod - Galaxy Reborn Mod - and Subterfuge Mod.
|

September 17th, 2005, 12:26 AM
|
 |
Shrapnel Fanatic
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Southern CA, USA
Posts: 18,394
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
*takes away the sauce from AT*
|

September 17th, 2005, 01:33 AM
|
 |
Shrapnel Fanatic
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: CHEESE!
Posts: 10,009
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 1 Post
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
...
__________________
If I only could remember half the things I'd forgot, that would be a lot of stuff, I think - I don't know; I forgot!
A* E* Se! Gd! $-- C-^- Ai** M-- S? Ss---- RA Pw? Fq Bb++@ Tcp? L++++
Some of my webcomics. I've got 400+ webcomics at Last count, some dead.
Sig updated to remove non-working links.
|

September 17th, 2005, 06:42 AM
|
 |
General
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3,603
Thanks: 0
Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
Quote:
El_Phil said:
Besides 99% of problems can be solved with a flow sheet, for those who's problems can't.... Well peanuts and monkeys. You haven't paid for decent tech support, why should you get it?
|
Then why not just discard the whole tech support, and put the flow sheet right on the website? So much cheaper, and if it doesn't work... who cares?
Sounds pretty much like your reasoning, when taken just one step further.
|

September 17th, 2005, 08:12 AM
|
 |
National Security Advisor
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 5,624
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
Umm, someone should let AT know that most people in India are Hindu, and definately not Arab. Aside from that, the other generalizations being made in this thread would seriously offend me if I were Indian.
|

September 17th, 2005, 08:49 AM
|
 |
Shrapnel Fanatic
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 15,630
Thanks: 0
Thanked 30 Times in 18 Posts
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
Thanks CK, I already knew what you pointed out but just as many are muslim. As to offending the people of India by relating them to murderous raving lunitics who believe that it is their devine right to kill people in the name of God, well I do apologies. The converstation was taken out of context and I am fully to blame for that. In this conversation the comment was not one of hatred or anger. We were just talking.
Granted the tech support people I have talked to from India have ALL been bery polite people. Never the less I still do not feel confortable with sharing personal information with them and ask that Companies that do business with them TELL US. Thats all.
__________________
Creator of the Star Trek Mod - AST Mod - 78 Ship Sets - Conquest Mod - Atrocities Star Wars Mod - Galaxy Reborn Mod - and Subterfuge Mod.
|

September 17th, 2005, 09:52 AM
|
 |
Major
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Searching for a holy grail.
Posts: 1,001
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
Quote:
Alneyan said:
Quote:
El_Phil said:
Besides 99% of problems can be solved with a flow sheet, for those who's problems can't.... Well peanuts and monkeys. You haven't paid for decent tech support, why should you get it?
|
Then why not just discard the whole tech support, and put the flow sheet right on the website? So much cheaper, and if it doesn't work... who cares?
Sounds pretty much like your reasoning, when taken just one step further.
|
Yep. That would be perfect, as I don't use tech support.
And hopefully some of the money saved might go into cheaper parts, not all of it of course. That would be too much to hope for.
__________________
He who disagrees with me in private, call him a fool. He who disagrees with me in public, call him an ambulance.
|

September 17th, 2005, 10:14 AM
|
 |
General
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3,603
Thanks: 0
Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
Quote:
El_Phil said:
Yep. That would be perfect, as I don't use tech support. 
And hopefully some of the money saved might go into cheaper parts, not all of it of course. That would be too much to hope for.
|
Call me the day you need tech support, or technicians, and don't get any, and we will talk about it again. I had no Internet access for a full month because of moronic tech support who failed to see there was a problem on their end, with things working again as soon as we switched ISPs (of course).
But hey, we are living in the best of all worlds, so why bother with any kind of tech support or assistance? Users should do everything on their own, with no kind of bell and whistles whatsoever. Have you seen how streamlined Windows installs are? Users really should run a command shell to install their OS, saving a lot of money for Microsoft, and said money should go into improving the system instead. That would be so great, but too much to hope for I guess.
Note: this post triggered the Sarcasm-o-meter test.
|

September 17th, 2005, 10:02 PM
|
General
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,205
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Re: Support That Is Based Outside Of USA
My truck (a 1995 Ford F-150) has metal bumpers, body, everything. But as far as I know, cars are being made of plastic more and more, as are the newer trucks.
Personally, I'd much rather be driving some 1970's-1980's car than a newer car. Why? The metal content. Sure, the plastic car and the metallic car may have similar strengths, etc. But everyone's failed to take into account a very important aspect; inertia. In a heavier vehicle, you will stand a much better chance of survival in the event of a collision with another vehicle, simply due to inertia.
__________________
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says "I'll try again tomorrow".
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future.
Download the Nosral Confederacy (a shipset based upon the Phong) and the Tyrellian Imperium, an organic looking shipset I created! (The Nosral are the better of the two [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Grin.gif[/img] )
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Hybrid Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|
|